Dear community,

I would like to share my experience with using some (really cool) 
computational tools for phylogenetic signal and morphological integration 
analysis. 

I am using physignal (geomorph R package) and the Phylo.Morphol.PLS 
function provided in the paper by Adams and Felice (2014; PLoS ONE, 
9:e94335) in my work. I noticed that if the same analysis is rerun for a 
particular number of iterations, the results may vary. Additionally, I 
observed that increasing the number of iterations, up to some critical 
point, may push down the p-value, depending on data set (didn't happen with 
the plethspecies (9 species) data, but happened in my data set - 13 
species, not salamanders). I attach runs (10 times) for both data sets for 
iterations of 100, 1000, 10000 and 100000 here for Phylo.Morphol.PLS. Note 
that some kind of stable results is attained after 1000 iterations 
(default) for the plethspecies data, but for my case, which needs 10000. 

I think the notion that p-values returned from a permutation method are 
actually realizations of random variables with a certain mean and variance 
may not be familiar to many biologists, who are accustomed to expect a 
reproducible p-value when the same data set is rerun using common 
statistical tests. Perhaps in a future version the authors of the code can 
implement a checker within the functions that checks the number of 
iterations for  attaining "convergence", so that a more stable p-value is 
returned? 






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