My school is making a strong push for F&P guided reading and I have used 
MOT/Reading with Meaning as well as some Four Blocks stuff last year. I see 
that there are a lot of similar things across these "ways of teaching". From my 
understanding MOT/RWM is more guided/group work then gradually move to 
independent and the guided reading is a lot more independent on their own with 
small groups pulled to teach the strategy indepth. I think that you really need 
to pick and choose what works for your STUDENTS not the school. Some students 
need the gradual release more than others. 
 
I found last year that the work together for a while then have them try it 
worked really well. This year we are doing lots of mini lessons they go to 
their desk and practice while I come around and circulate. I have not finished 
the first 20 days due to my having to IRI all students first. I planned to 
start this week but COGAT messed with that. I will see if this works better/the 
same/or no difference. 
 
My students this year are much different from last year where I had a lot of 
low students and a lot of high students (with 22). This year I have only 16 
students with one low. The rest are on grade level (which is unusual). 
 
I think the more you do it and experiment with it you will find what works for 
YOU and not the grade level/school. There are no quick fixes and each person 
has their own spin on how to do it. It is nice to come to a concensus as a 
grade level but depending on how many are on your grade level personalities 
will clash and this may never occur.
 
Tina 3rd/tx


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From: RICHARD THEXTON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv 
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:44:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] School wide struggle with strategies


I think the difference is this:  In Guided Reading the children are "learning 
to read".  This would be using a book the teacher has selected at that groups 
instructional level.  During this group you may work on decoding, fluency, the 
"how to read" strategies.  During the Reader's Workshop (which GR could be a 
part of) the children are "reading to learn".  Children select their own texts, 
which are appropriate for them, because we've taught them how to select the 
just right book.  During this block, students are applying the comprehension 
strategies you have modeled during your mini-lesson, in order to get a deeper 
and better understanding of what they have read, connect it and synthesize it 
to extend their own learning.  
  If you have kids who aren't really reading, they definitely need a guided 
reading group, in order to be successful reading independently on a text they 
chose for themselves.  
  Hope that helps to clarify the "mix"
  Kelli Thexton
  Literacy Coach
  Westside Elementary
  Rogers, AR  USA

Linda DeGreen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The way we approach this is through the balanced literacy framework 
which includes GR during our reading time. It's basically the gradual 
release of responsibility model so that reading begins each day with 
teacher read alouds (modeling thinking, strategies, etc), moving to 
some form of a small group or partner practice of that lesson (often 
this happens in the gR groups with the teacher), and works it's way 
into the expectation that students will use it in their independent 
reading during what you are calling reading workshop. Are you saying 
you have not supported learners in small groups before and this is the 
"mix" you're concerned about? I usually pull just one or 2 groups to 
work with each day and spend the rest of the time 
monitoring/conferencing individual learners. But it all happens during 
the reading workshop where students have chosen their own books to read 
and respond to.The difference is that in GR , teacher has chosen the 
text based on children's levels to help them with the strategies.
Linda/2/OH
On Sunday, September 17, 2006, at 07:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I could really use some input here!
> My school has struggled to get out of the dark ages of reading for some
> time. We finally made the big move to strategies about three years 
> ago. We even
> had a big group of us go to a conference with Ellin, Debbie Miller, 
> etc.
> summer before last. The problem is that our specialist (who did not 
> go to the
> conference, but is the one who started strategies school wide) has 
> not really
> followed up with enough training, follow through, etc., and many of 
> the
> teachers who should have been teaching strategies have not really 
> been doing it. I
> just don't think that the teachers quite "get it" yet, and so they 
> end up
> falling back on old ways. My incoming 5th graders this year didn't 
> even know
> what schema is. Here is the problem. We have a new staff member who 
> was a
> reading specialist at her old school. We were very excited about her 
> coming.
> She has had lots of special training, etc. She is a teacher here. 
> Long
> story short, even though I have not "heard" what she is expert in 
> yet, I now
> strongly believe that she was doing guided reading in her old school. 
> Guided
> reading seems like a totally different thing to me than Reading 
> workshop. It
> is set up differently, the timing is different, etc. I only have a 
> 110
> minute block each day for Reading and Writing, and so where does that 
> leave time
> for the truly independent reading that I want my readers doing each 
> day?
> My fear is that because this is a strong personality coming in, who is
> confident in what she has been doing, and because some grade levels 
> are struggling
> with Reading Workshop, that we will cave in to yet another system. I 
> don't
> want that. I have seen the format that we are doing work too well at 
> my
> grade level, where we have actually been doing it, albeit imperfectly.
> I was wondering if any, many, or a few of you have leveled groups 
> during
> your independent reading time for Reading Workshop? Do the two mix, 
> and I'm
> just not getting it? I'm feeling that what we really need here is 
> more support
> in the school for strategy teaching in the reading workshop format. 
> Opinions?
> Sherry
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