In response to Sandi, while it is true that we should avoid using the word "never" when referring to teachers as a group, we should also avoid speaking for the entire group of teachers on this list serv, as in "The teachers on this list serve certainly DO use schema in their sentences....as well as metacognition...inferring, questioning, visualizing, determining importance and synthesizing."
Please realize that there are many pre-service teachers who read these posts and may hesitate to post a question or idea if they are singled out for their choice of words. I think the gist of Bella's post was that the use of this terminology with children is new to her. Your suggestion of making other teachers aware of this list serv is a constructive one. I guess now I am the one that appears defensive.. :) Maxine ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Mosaic Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > Send Mosaic mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/listinfo/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mosaic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mosaic Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 2. RWM/Debbie Miller (Sandra Stringham) > 3. Re: nonfiction titles (Michelle TeGrootenhuis) > 4. inferences ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 5. Re: summary rubric (Mary Lou) > 6. Re: inferences (Linda DeGreen) > 7. inferences (Sandra Stringham) > 8. Re: inferences (Dave Middlebrook) > 9. Re: OT: standards-based progress reports/report cards > (Patricia Kimathi) > 10. Re: Some help with questioning please (Waingort Jimenez, Elisa) > 11. Re: nonfiction titles (CARL ZIEMINSKI) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:07:17 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Dear Krissy > I recently watched the debbie miller film in my master's class. I agree > Debbie Miller is a fantastic teacher. I feel her teaching stragedies are > very > good. I also like how she talks to her children. I am a substitute > teacher and I > never hear teachers use schema in a sentence. I also like how she uses > the > word infer when she teaches or asks a question to the children. On the > video > she has a notebook for each child and she is always writing something > down. > Unfortunately that is not possible with some teachers. The days are > chaotic. > and it is hard to write comments about each individual child. I also feel > that > her room is also well organized and she has a lot of space. Her students > do > enjoy her and the way she teaches. She does alot of read alouds and > shared > readings with the children. >>From Bella0808 > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:41:11 -0700 (PDT) > From: Sandra Stringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MOSAIC] RWM/Debbie Miller > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii > > Maybe I'm defensive...and that won't be the 1st time that's been said > about me, but I just had to respond to Bella...especially for the students > in their pre-service teaching: > > I am a substitute teacher and I > never hear teachers use schema in a sentence. I also like how she uses > the > word infer when she teaches or asks a question to the children. On the > video > she has a notebook for each child and she is always writing something > down. > Unfortunately that is not possible with some teachers. The days are > chaotic. > and it is hard to write comments about each individual child. I also feel > that > her room is also well organized and she has a lot of space. Her students > do > enjoy her and the way she teaches. She does alot of read alouds and > shared > readings with the children. > > The teachers on this list serve certainly DO use schema in their > sentences....as well as metacognition...inferring, questioning, > visualizing, determining importance and synthesizing. That's part of the > point of teaching the strategies explicitly: using the terminology. > Certainly not all of it...we want them to understand how it helps them be > better readers. And I want them to transfer that language to writing and > to math. > > I have a notebook for every child and when I meet with them in guided > reading, I'm taking a running record every single time as well as noting > any strategy use. I also have a notebook that I write in during share > time, when we are sharing whole group our strategy work and I take notes > daily. > > Read Alouds and shared reading...that's all part of balanced literacy. We > do it everyday. I've had BIG BIG rooms and small, small rooms....it can > be done with a little planning....don't let the room discourage what you > can do for your kids. > > I was fortunate to have Debbie Miller teach a lesson in my classroom a few > years ago. It certainly did my heart good to hear my kids use the > terminology as they discussed what good readers do with her....and even > more so they could demonstrate the use of the strategy. And the only way > they learned it was because I taught them. > > So if you are not seeing teachers use the terminology where you teach or > the kids, more importantly, can't demonstrate what it is and use it...then > introduce them to this list serve and the research that is out there. > > I hate that word never...because it's NEVER true! > > Sandi > 1st/Elgin IL > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:55:24 -0500 > From: "Michelle TeGrootenhuis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] nonfiction titles > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I teach 2nd grade and absolutely love the "Let's Read and Find Out Series" > of nonfiction readers. I find that the level 1 books are actually about > just right for independent reading towards the end of the year, but have a > lot of facts so we generally share them as a supplement to our science > textbook. I also share many of the Level 2 books throughout the year, but > they tend to be more 3rd grade. Two of my favorites this time of year as > we > study the earth and sky are "The Big Dipper" and "The Moon Seems to > Change". > > You can see the books at amazon at > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/104-7010961-1143964?url=search-alias%3Ds > tripbooks&field-keywords=let%27s+read+and+find+out+science+series > > I'm actually one of these books to do "text-mapping" which is a technique > I'm trying for the first time after seeing the website in Dave > Middlebrook's > email tag on this listerv. Check it out at http://www.textmapping.org and > pictures of the project in action at > http://www.textmapping.org/images.html > > Hope this helps! > -Michelle TG > > > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 > From: Karri Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MOSAIC] Non-fiction books > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Does anyone have any good non-fiction titles and/or a series for 2-3rd > grade > readers? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 01:05:24 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [MOSAIC] inferences > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Here is a fun activity that I did with my kids that they really seemed to > enjoy... but if I know you .... probably "you've been there and done > that".... > but here goes. > I keep trying to make the point that these strategies of comprehension > are > not just for reading text but are necessary life skills that help > everyone to > think deeply and carefully so..... > I brought in five unfamiliar kitchen gadgets and asked them to sit at a > power table so that four kids looked at the same tool. EAch was given a > recording > sheet where they drew pictures (visual image), labeled their > observations,(determined importance) made connections to other tools that > they were reminded > of, and listed questions they had about the tool. Then they shared their > questions and observations and came up with a power table inference. It > was a > fun project because although only one group actually guessed what the > gadget > was really used for....many used their recordings to think creatively and > critically. Although not correct.... many had wonderful alternate uses. > Then I asked each group to make an inference about their group work..... > The overwhelming response was that their own thinking was enhanced by > sharing not only their individual inferences but that their questions > were the ones > that drove their thinking. They also eluded to work habits and body > language > that either made or broke their power table's initiative. > Not bad for first graders! > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 02:24:51 -0400 > From: "Mary Lou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] summary rubric > To: "'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Kathy, > > My school has one posted on our rubric page. There is also a summary > model > as well. The summary rubric is on the bottom of the page. > > Mary Lou > > http://www.knottyoakms.net/ElementFR/KOMS%20ELA/Rubrics/rubrics.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 05:49:16 -0500 > From: Linda DeGreen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] inferences > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > I love this idea! I'm thinking of tying it to s.s. standards and bring > in "old time" gadgets too. > Linda > > > On Wednesday, May 2, 2007, at 12:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> Here is a fun activity that I did with my kids that they really >> seemed to >> enjoy... but if I know you .... probably "you've been there and done >> that".... >> but here goes. >> I keep trying to make the point that these strategies of >> comprehension are >> not just for reading text but are necessary life skills that help >> everyone to >> think deeply and carefully so..... >> I brought in five unfamiliar kitchen gadgets and asked them to sit at >> a >> power table so that four kids looked at the same tool. EAch was given >> a recording >> sheet where they drew pictures (visual image), labeled their >> observations,(determined importance) made connections to other tools >> that they were reminded >> of, and listed questions they had about the tool. Then they shared >> their >> questions and observations and came up with a power table inference. >> It was a >> fun project because although only one group actually guessed what >> the gadget >> was really used for....many used their recordings to think creatively >> and >> critically. Although not correct.... many had wonderful alternate uses. >> Then I asked each group to make an inference about their group >> work..... >> The overwhelming response was that their own thinking was enhanced by >> sharing not only their individual inferences but that their questions >> were the ones >> that drove their thinking. They also eluded to work habits and body >> language >> that either made or broke their power table's initiative. >> Not bad for first graders! >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 04:08:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Sandra Stringham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MOSAIC] inferences > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii > > I keep trying to make the point that these strategies of comprehension > are > not just for reading text but are necessary life skills that help > everyone to > think deeply and carefully so..... > I brought in five unfamiliar kitchen gadgets and asked them to sit at a > power table so that four kids looked at the same tool. > > I LOVE your idea....I'm "stealing" this one too!!!! > > Sandi > 1st > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:45:01 -0400 > From: "Dave Middlebrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] inferences > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > You might try other kinds of tools as well -- a mix of kitchen, household, > shop, and lawn tools might be interesting (and could keep the game going > for > a long time). > > And if you think your kids might enjoy seeing adults play this game, you > can > always either tune into "Ask This Old House" on PBS, or see if you can > find > an old show at the library. They end each show with a "guess what this > tool > is" segment. They bring in an old or specialty tool, and each of the guys > (carpenter, plumber, electrician, landscaper and gc) takes a guess at what > it is. They usually suggest goofy ideas. The kids might like the > off-the-wall approach -- and since the Ask This Old House guys' goofy > answers are drawn on solid schema (these are all "tool guys") and smart > inferences (either off-the-wall, or right on target -- but smart either > way) > you have an entertaining ready-made model of just how challenging and fun > this game can be. > > Great suggestion Pam! Always good to read your posts. > > Dave Middlebrook > The Textmapping Project > A resource for teachers improving reading comprehension skills > instruction. > www.textmapping.org | Please share this site with your colleagues! > USA: (609) 771-1781 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:05 AM > Subject: [MOSAIC] inferences > > >> >> Here is a fun activity that I did with my kids that they really seemed >> to >> enjoy... but if I know you .... probably "you've been there and done >> that".... >> but here goes. >> I keep trying to make the point that these strategies of comprehension >> are >> not just for reading text but are necessary life skills that help >> everyone to >> think deeply and carefully so..... >> I brought in five unfamiliar kitchen gadgets and asked them to sit at a >> power table so that four kids looked at the same tool. EAch was given a >> recording >> sheet where they drew pictures (visual image), labeled their >> observations,(determined importance) made connections to other tools >> that >> they were reminded >> of, and listed questions they had about the tool. Then they shared their >> questions and observations and came up with a power table inference. It >> was a >> fun project because although only one group actually guessed what the >> gadget >> was really used for....many used their recordings to think creatively and >> critically. Although not correct.... many had wonderful alternate uses. >> Then I asked each group to make an inference about their group >> work..... >> The overwhelming response was that their own thinking was enhanced by >> sharing not only their individual inferences but that their questions >> were the ones >> that drove their thinking. They also eluded to work habits and body >> language >> that either made or broke their power table's initiative. >> Not bad for first graders! >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 04:57:08 -0700 > From: Patricia Kimathi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] OT: standards-based progress reports/report > cards > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Kerry, > If you get one based on California Standards I would love to see it. > You can email me offlist. Does anyone have something that includes > state standards and mosaic strategies? > Pat K > > "to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night > and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest > battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting." > > e.e. cummings > > On Apr 30, 2007, at 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Does anyone else's school have these? Would anyone >> be willing to email me a copy or send me a web link? I would love to >> see >> some examples. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 06:58:37 -0600 > From: "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Some help with questioning please > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have modelled asking questions by starting off with, I wonder...To date, > only a few kids use this stem to ask a question about a book that we're > reading but they are all genuine questions. I think the I wonder really > helps them think about things they wonder. I think that when you have > kids ask questions about what they don't understand in a story or a piece > of writing, it muddles it up for them. I'm not sure why but that is just > a hunch I have right now. We ask questions during writing workshop but I > haven't suggested they start with I wonder. I will start suggesting that > today to see if the questions are more genuine and helpful to the reader. > So far, they haven't been. Thanks for making me wonder. > Elisa Waingort > Calgary, Canada > > > I am a Literacy Coordinator from Melbourne Australia. I don't have my own > class any longer but model and mentor for other teachers. Our Grades 3 & > 4 are introducing the strategies for comprehension. We are struggling a > bit with questioning from the point of view of getting them to realise > that questioning is asking questions to gain understanding; therefore you > would only be asking a question when you don't get it. They ask myriads of > questions but they are questions for questions sake if you know what I > mean. Have read all the books and refer to them constantly. > > Can some one give us some tips? > > Jan > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 06:21:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: CARL ZIEMINSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] nonfiction titles > To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I have recently found a neat set of "Twin Texts" that offer a nonfiction > book and a corresponding a fiction story. My students who have used them > at the 4th grade level have REALLY enjoyed them. I went to the company's > website and see that they are available for rearly readers, too. > > You might like to check them out. > > http://www.sundancepub.com/c/@MTr.N0Lz69KfM/Pages/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Best, > 'Becca > > Michelle TeGrootenhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I teach 2nd grade and absolutely love the "Let's Read and Find Out > Series" > of nonfiction readers. I find that the level 1 books are actually about > just right for independent reading towards the end of the year, but have a > lot of facts so we generally share them as a supplement to our science > textbook. I also share many of the Level 2 books throughout the year, but > they tend to be more 3rd grade. Two of my favorites this time of year as > we > study the earth and sky are "The Big Dipper" and "The Moon Seems to > Change". > > You can see the books at amazon at > http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/104-7010961-1143964?url=search-alias%3Ds > tripbooks&field-keywords=let%27s+read+and+find+out+science+series > > I'm actually one of these books to do "text-mapping" which is a technique > I'm trying for the first time after seeing the website in Dave > Middlebrook's > email tag on this listerv. Check it out at http://www.textmapping.org and > pictures of the project in action at > http://www.textmapping.org/images.html > > Hope this helps! > -Michelle TG > > > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 > From: Karri Bennett > Subject: [MOSAIC] Non-fiction books > Message-ID: > > Does anyone have any good non-fiction titles and/or a series for 2-3rd > grade > readers? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > End of Mosaic Digest, Vol 9, Issue 2 > ************************************ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/782 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 > 2:10 AM > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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