I have been reading the fluency discussion, but intentionally staying out of 
it.  However, I just can't resist the opportunity to ask Dr. Rasinski a few 
questions.  (I own two of your books, and have heard you speak several times as 
well.)  
 
You said:>My own > research has in fact found strong correlations between 
fluency and > comprehension all the way through senior high school. ... 
Interestingly, however, policy makers >are not terribly interested > in fluency 
with older students. It's just not issue they say. 
 
This is not the case in Florida (home of Joe Torgenson) where we are now 
required to teach fluency and give one minute fluency tests to middle and high 
school students in intensive reading classes.  These are the kids who score 
below grade level on the state acheivement test.  For the past two years, we 
gave this test quarterly (in addition to informal testing in the classroom).  
This year it was given 3 times.  Overall, most of these students fail to meet 
the target rates AND they have poor comprehension, so I'd say that our data 
matches yours.  What I'd like to know is if there is any evidence that focusing 
on improving fluency improves comprehension.  In other words, how do we know 
that poor fluency causes poor comprehension and not the other way around?  
Could focusing on comprehension strategies improve fluency - possibly more than 
the current mania focusing on reading rates?  Incidentally, we see virtually 
patterns in the data we've collected from these fluency prompts.
 
My second question has to do with ELL students.  We have quite a lot of these 
in Florida.  I have found that many ELL students with horrible fluency have 
good comprehension.  I have also found that many of our ELL students who score 
well on the fluency probes have virtually no comprehension of what they've 
read.  Have there been any large studies with this population that could help 
us know the best approach for teaching these readers?
 
Thanks for any enlightenment you can send my way.
 
Diana
Middle School Literacy Coach
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