My school uses SRI, and the teachers are about as happy as you can be
with any test - it can be administered whole group, so teachers like
that to save time.  Students can go back and look at the passage to
answer the questions, but for the most part it gives a pretty accurate
read (compared to our MAPs testing and other schoolwide/district
assessments).

As a special education teacher, I researched some assessments and found
a fantastic assessment for reading fluency with computerized data and
results that put students in the following categories - intervention
necessary, intervention recommended, on track (at a modest rate), at
grade level.  These categories are based on the words correct per minute
(wcpm) that a student at a particular grade level should read.
EdCheckup also has a MAZE reading component where students read a
passage and have to select words to fill in the blanks. It also includes
writing and math assessments.  This program was fairly inexpensive to
purchase for our entire school - it's $100 per 40 students.  You can
view demos and sample materials on the website - www.edcheckup.com  This
is a one-on-one assessment that is very quick and the electronic scoring
makes things even quicker.

Jackie
Special Education Teacher
 

"Try to be like the turtle - at ease in your own shell"~Bill Copeland
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Importance: Low


Our district does a computerized Scholastic Reading Inventory and then
we 
QRI the below grade level readers.  I am happy with it.  It has a word
list 
to help id a starting place for the oral reading passages.  It gives you
a 
word accuaracy score, reading rate, and implicit and explicity
questions.  
Easy enough to use.  Not perfect. Some teachers dont' like some of the 
questions or the scoring etc.  But in my experience there is no perfect 
assessment.  And for busy middle school teachers QRi is about as good as
it 
is going to get as far as 1:1 assessment. I have gone on to use the
Quick 
Phonics Screener if I wanted more information on decoding skills.  But
these 
days our elementary teachers are doing a good job with that and it is 
usually comprehension and/or fluency we have to address.  Gina

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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:58:35 -0400
>From: "Carol Mauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] QRI / Reading Assessment
>To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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>I use the Bader Reading and Language Inventory. It provides graded
reading 
>passages. The assessment checks for reading comp: explicit, retell, and

>inferrence. Of course you can do a running record as well as a fluency 
>check. It will give you an instructional reading level.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Carol
>
>Carol A. Mauer
>BCSC Literacy Coach
>Lincoln School, Home Base
>(812) 376-4447
>
>"It is not how much you do, but how much love you put in the doing."
>
>
> >>> Lisa Loura Savitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/14/2007 9:28 AM >>>
>I am looking for a new assessment tool to use in the fifth grade.  My
>school uses a quick, multiple choice test which I have found to be
>very inaccurate.  Our literacy leader told us that we could use other
>assessments to get a better idea of what level the child is on.  I've
>used informal running records, and of course, I know what skills my
>students need by working with them in guided reading groups, but I
>want something more formal and reliable.  I was looking at the QRI
>(Qualitative Reading Assessment) online.  I like how there are quick
>passages for students to read (fiction and nonfiction) and the cost
>is reasonable on Amazon, too.
>
>Does anyone use this assessment?  What are the pros/cons?  Any other
>suggestions?  I'm looking for something that does not cost too much
>since I will be purchasing this with my own money.
>
>Thank you!
>Lisa
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:16:51 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [MOSAIC] To Lisa/Re:QRI
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>Lisa, I was trained years ago on the QRI and the school district  I'm
in 
>now
>has just started to request that their classroom teachers use it for
4th
>grade and up because the DRA takes too long past level 44. I like the 
>newest
>QRI-4 because the students are allowed to look back for questions. The
QRI  
>offers
>the ability to compare straight retelling from memory, answering
literal  
>and
>inferential questions from memory, finding more information from the
text
>when using look backs. I like it as a reading specialist because you
really 
>get
>a full picture of the student. The only issue is that it's just a grade
>level,  so for teachers who are using leveled books it can be vague.
There 
>are
>gradients  of difficulty within the passages, but still just that grade

>level. We
>(the  reading specialists) are now using the new F&P assesment kit.
It's 
>been
>helpful and enables one to pinpoint an instructional level more closely
>related  to the childs needs. However, I think the QRI is the way to go
if 
>you are
>purchasing it on your own- way less$$.
>Michelle- 2-5AIS/NY
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:24:46 -0400
>From: "Jane Wenzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [MOSAIC] change e-amil
>To: [email protected]
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>
>I am in a pickle.
>I cannot gain access to my listserve accounts to make a change of
e-mail
>address - whether it's the password or sign-in, I don't know.
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:31:43 -0600
>From: ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] QRI / Reading Assessment
>To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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>One of our high school teachers will be using this this year.  She
>administers the assessment one on one, using verbal probes as she works
>primarily with special needs students.  My husband is trying this with
his
>8th graders.  I have looked at the assessment and think it is a
reasonable
>screen.  However, in order for students to respond to questions in
writing,
>I think you would need to retype the assessment questions  because they
>don't give kids a lot of space.
>
>
>On 9/14/07 7:28 AM, "Lisa Loura Savitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a new assessment tool to use in the fifth grade.
My
> > school uses a quick, multiple choice test which I have found to be
> > very inaccurate.  Our literacy leader told us that we could use
other
> > assessments to get a better idea of what level the child is on.
I've
> > used informal running records, and of course, I know what skills my
> > students need by working with them in guided reading groups, but I
> > want something more formal and reliable.  I was looking at the QRI
> > (Qualitative Reading Assessment) online.  I like how there are quick
> > passages for students to read (fiction and nonfiction) and the cost
> > is reasonable on Amazon, too.
> >
> > Does anyone use this assessment?  What are the pros/cons?  Any other
> > suggestions?  I'm looking for something that does not cost too much
> > since I will be purchasing this with my own money.
> >
> > Thank you!
> > Lisa
> >
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:56:57 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] QRI / Reading Assessment
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>Lisa
>I like the QRI - 4 because it has these features:
>1. Lots of both expository and narrative passages to choose from at a  
>level.
>2. You can assess background knowledge and predicting skills if you
wish.
>3. You can assess comprehension via retelling OR questions.
>4. There is an option for assessing think alouds at higher level
passages
>which helps me decide where to go with my comprehension strategy  
>instruction.
>5. It seems to be a pretty good predictor of success on standardized
tests
>(seems to be valid for our setting)
>
>CONS: can be time consuming and must be administered one-on-one
>Jennifer
>In a message dated 9/14/2007 9:28:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>I am  looking for a new assessment tool to use in the fifth grade.  My
>school uses a quick, multiple choice test which I have found to be
>very inaccurate.  Our literacy leader told us that we could use  other
>assessments to get a better idea of what level the child is  on.  I've
>used informal running records, and of course, I know  what skills my
>students need by working with them in guided reading  groups, but I
>want something more formal and reliable.  I was  looking at the QRI
>(Qualitative Reading Assessment) online.  I  like how there are quick
>passages for students to read (fiction and  nonfiction) and the cost
>is reasonable on Amazon, too.
>
>Does  anyone use this assessment?  What are the pros/cons?  Any  other
>suggestions?  I'm looking for something that does not  cost too much
>since I will be purchasing this with my own  money.
>
>Thank you!
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:03:28 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Salad now PIZZA lesson
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
>Maxine
>There are probably a couple versions of the pizza lesson now. The idea
is  
>to
>help kids understand and get a visual for the fact that real reading 
>requires
>  both text and thinking! I got the idea from somebody here on the
list. 
>What
>I did was copy a poem on red paper (pizza sauce) and cut it into
stanzas. I
>gave each pair of children the poem, a tan circle of paper cut to a
pizza 
>size
>  (the crust) and a pack of yellow sticky notes (the pizza cheese). I
asked
>the kids to read the poem a stanza at a time and paste it on the brown 
>circle.
>Then each person was to put their thinking on sticky notes around the 
>stanza.
>  They repeated the process to cover the pizza crust with text and 
>thinking. I
>  finally gave each kid a "pepperoni" circle cut from construction
paper. 
>On
>it  they had to write what they had learned about real reading.
>Hope this helps
>Jennifer
>  In a message dated 9/14/2007 9:48:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>My book  hasn't come yet.  Will someone explain the pizza lesson for
me?
>Maxine
>
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>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:55:33 +0000
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
>To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
>       <[email protected]>
>Message-ID:
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>As far as I can tell for a student with a 504 plan for ADHD the only
thing 
>necessary is for the parent to say the student has ADHD and for the 
>teachers to agree that's probably true.  (Although the second part
seems 
>not to be always necessary.)
>
>
>-------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Beverlee Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > nothing in law that I know of - I just personally have never known a

>student on
> > a 504 who wasn't tested - what route would your kids have taken to
have 
>been
> > placed on a 504 plan?  What is typical, I mean?
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:17:41 -0400
>From: Julie Santello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
>To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
>       <[email protected]>
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>In our district there must be a doctors evaluation to be allowed to
>have a 504 for ADHD.  It can not just be because the parents and
>teacher say so, it must be diagnosed.
>Julie
>
>
>
>On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as I can tell for a student with a 504 plan for ADHD the
> > only thing necessary is for the parent to say the student has ADHD
> > and for the teachers to agree that's probably true.  (Although the
> > second part seems not to be always necessary.)
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Beverlee Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> nothing in law that I know of - I just personally have never known
> >> a student on
> >> a 504 who wasn't tested - what route would your kids have taken to
> >> have been
> >> placed on a 504 plan?  What is typical, I mean?
> >>
> >>
> >
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>Message: 9
>Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:14:11 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Joy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
>To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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>This is what should have been done for my son when he was recovering
from 
>brain tumor surgery his sophomore year. I believe it was because the
school 
>chose to ignore his needs because his IQ was still above 180 after
surgery. 
>They saw his falling asleep in class, and sudden onset of slow
acquisition 
>of learning as behavioral rather than medical, despite letters from his

>team of doctors explaining that the side effects of his surgery and 
>medications included these things. Instead, the school superintendent
in 
>charge of high schools chose to exit him from high school, so he never 
>graduated. Although we had grounds for a lawsuit, we couldn't pursue it

>because we lacked the means to hire an attorney, falling just above the

>income level for legal assistance.
>
>   As you can imagine, my son is bitter about his experience, and
refuses 
>to pursue alternate routes to obtaining further education. As a
teacher, I 
>am horrified that this happened to him, and wonder how many others have

>been mistreated by our school system.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Linda Girard"
>To: "'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group'"
>
>Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:50:25 -0400
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
>
> > My daughter had a meltdown and was hospitalized at the very
beginning
> > of HS
> > sophomore yr. Guidance/ SW/ and I put her on a 504 (had paperwork
and
> > diagnosis from hospital) to allow her more time to complete
> > assignments.
> > Also this allowed her to give private signal to teacher so she could
> > leave
> > the room and go to guidance when she was becoming overwhelmed and
talk
> > it
> > out. This gave her the opportunity to stay in school and be with her
> > friends, participate in activities, get help from teachers,
guidance,
> > assistant principal, SW, etc. We didn't think she could have done it
> > without
> > the 504. When she was elected to the National Honor Society senior
yr.,
> > her
> > comment was 'I would have had this last year, if I didn't screw up
> > sophomore
> > year.' I'm just happy that she seems okay, starting sophomore yr. at
> > college, has boyfriend, job, made Dean's list last yr, and still has
> > time
> > for her many friends. Yes, sometimes she does get overwhelmed, but
she
> > blows
> > steam off at me, (I stay calm and listen) and then goes to a
friend's
> > and
> > relaxes. Whatever works!!! Right??!!
> > Eccentric Linda in CT
> > Mother of:
> > Maggie the mystery, 19
> > Edward the stoic, 25
> > Nicholas the wanderer, 22
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:35 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
> >
> >
> > No.? Special Ed is under IDEA.? 504 is under ADA.? ADHD is a medical
> > diagnosis, not a learning disability.
> > If the student has a 504, my understanding is that there are written
> > accomodations (e.g., untimed tests, use of assistive technology,
> > etc.).? You
> > mentioned the student had a 504 plan - what are the accomodations??
My
> > experience is that when there is a concern about attentional issues,
> > rating
> > scales are done by the school and the family, and then the
information
> > is
> > shared with the pediatrician/medical person because ADHD is a
medical
> > diagnosis.
> >
> > m.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> >
> > Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:09 pm
> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The mom said he had not been tested for spec ed.
> > I have never had a student on a 504 who had been tested for spec ed.
> > Is
> > there
> > something in spec ed law that would indicate that a 504 student
should
> > have
> > been
> > tested for spec ed?
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Beverlee Paul
> > >
> > > If he's on a 504, he very likely has been tested for SPED.
> > >
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed,
12
> > Sep
> > 2007
> >
> > > 01:27:08 +0000> Subject: [MOSAIC] question about a student> > I
have
> > just
> > > finished my first week of school. By that I mean to let you know
that
> > I
> > don't
> > > know my students well yet. I teach 8th grade, and by that I mean
to
> > let
> > you
> > know
> > > that I don't have the same students in my room most of the day.> >
I
> > have
> > a
> > > student with a 504 plan for ADHD. The plan does not say much. I
> > talked to
> > the
> > > student's mom yesterday. The mom said that the student cannot
write.
> > He
> > *can*
> > > write, but not well, and he does not write much. He cannot copy
from
> > the
> > > overhead. He cannot read a page in a text and write about what he
> > read.> >
> > I
> > > want to use sticky notes and reading response for fiction and
> > nonfiction,
> > but
> > > according to what the mom told me yesterday, her son cannot do
that.
> > Students
> > in
> > > 8th grade also have to write a major research paper, but I don't
> > think
> > this
> > > student can take notes from sources to put together to write a
> > paper.> >
> > The
> > mom
> > > told me that over the summer she paid thousands of dollars to have
> > her son
> >
> > > tested by a private agency. (I do not know why the school did not
> > test him
> > for
> >
> > > special ed.) She does not have the results of the tests yet.> > In
> > the
> > meantime,
> > > I need some ideas about what to do. I have already arranged to
meet
> > with
> > the
> > > student one day a week after school to talk about what he
> > understands, but
> > one
> >
> > > day will not be enough to help him with everything. I cannot work
> > with
> > this
> > > student every day -- I don't have the time.> > Suggestions?
Thoughts?
> > Comments?>
> > > Thanks!> Jan> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 10
>Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:36:00 -0600
>From: ljackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
>To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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>I think plenty and that the number of students treated in this way has
>probably grown in a direction proportion to the intensity of pressure
on 
>the
>school as a result of NCLB.
>
>Lori
>
>
>On 9/15/07 3:14 AM, "Joy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This is what should have been done for my son when he was recovering

>from
> > brain tumor surgery his sophomore year. I believe it was because the

>school
> > chose to ignore his needs because his IQ was still above 180 after 
>surgery.
> > They saw his falling asleep in class, and sudden onset of slow 
>acquisition of
> > learning as behavioral rather than medical, despite letters from his

>team of
> > doctors explaining that the side effects of his surgery and
medications
> > included these things. Instead, the school superintendent in charge
of 
>high
> > schools chose to exit him from high school, so he never graduated. 
>Although we
> > had grounds for a lawsuit, we couldn't pursue it because we lacked
the 
>means
> > to hire an attorney, falling just above the income level for legal 
>assistance.
> >
> >   As you can imagine, my son is bitter about his experience, and
refuses 
>to
> > pursue alternate routes to obtaining further education. As a
teacher, I 
>am
> > horrified that this happened to him, and wonder how many others have

>been
> > mistreated by our school system.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Linda Girard"
> > To: "'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group'"
> >
> > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:50:25 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
> >
> >> My daughter had a meltdown and was hospitalized at the very
beginning
> >> of HS
> >> sophomore yr. Guidance/ SW/ and I put her on a 504 (had paperwork
and
> >> diagnosis from hospital) to allow her more time to complete
> >> assignments.
> >> Also this allowed her to give private signal to teacher so she
could
> >> leave
> >> the room and go to guidance when she was becoming overwhelmed and
talk
> >> it
> >> out. This gave her the opportunity to stay in school and be with
her
> >> friends, participate in activities, get help from teachers,
guidance,
> >> assistant principal, SW, etc. We didn't think she could have done
it
> >> without
> >> the 504. When she was elected to the National Honor Society senior
yr.,
> >> her
> >> comment was 'I would have had this last year, if I didn't screw up
> >> sophomore
> >> year.' I'm just happy that she seems okay, starting sophomore yr.
at
> >> college, has boyfriend, job, made Dean's list last yr, and still
has
> >> time
> >> for her many friends. Yes, sometimes she does get overwhelmed, but
she
> >> blows
> >> steam off at me, (I stay calm and listen) and then goes to a
friend's
> >> and
> >> relaxes. Whatever works!!! Right??!!
> >> Eccentric Linda in CT
> >> Mother of:
> >> Maggie the mystery, 19
> >> Edward the stoic, 25
> >> Nicholas the wanderer, 22
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:35 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
> >>
> >>
> >> No.? Special Ed is under IDEA.? 504 is under ADA.? ADHD is a
medical
> >> diagnosis, not a learning disability.
> >> If the student has a 504, my understanding is that there are
written
> >> accomodations (e.g., untimed tests, use of assistive technology,
> >> etc.).? You
> >> mentioned the student had a 504 plan - what are the accomodations??
My
> >> experience is that when there is a concern about attentional
issues,
> >> rating
> >> scales are done by the school and the family, and then the
information
> >> is
> >> shared with the pediatrician/medical person because ADHD is a
medical
> >> diagnosis.
> >>
> >> m.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> >>
> >> Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:09 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The mom said he had not been tested for spec ed.
> >> I have never had a student on a 504 who had been tested for spec
ed.
> >> Is
> >> there
> >> something in spec ed law that would indicate that a 504 student
should
> >> have
> >> been
> >> tested for spec ed?
> >> Jan
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: Beverlee Paul
> >>>
> >>> If he's on a 504, he very likely has been tested for SPED.
> >>>
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed,
12
> >> Sep
> >> 2007
> >>
> >>> 01:27:08 +0000> Subject: [MOSAIC] question about a student> > I
have
> >> just
> >>> finished my first week of school. By that I mean to let you know
that
> >> I
> >> don't
> >>> know my students well yet. I teach 8th grade, and by that I mean
to
> >> let
> >> you
> >> know
> >>> that I don't have the same students in my room most of the day.> >
I
> >> have
> >> a
> >>> student with a 504 plan for ADHD. The plan does not say much. I
> >> talked to
> >> the
> >>> student's mom yesterday. The mom said that the student cannot
write.
> >> He
> >> *can*
> >>> write, but not well, and he does not write much. He cannot copy
from
> >> the
> >>> overhead. He cannot read a page in a text and write about what he
> >> read.> >
> >> I
> >>> want to use sticky notes and reading response for fiction and
> >> nonfiction,
> >> but
> >>> according to what the mom told me yesterday, her son cannot do
that.
> >> Students
> >> in
> >>> 8th grade also have to write a major research paper, but I don't
> >> think
> >> this
> >>> student can take notes from sources to put together to write a
> >> paper.> >
> >> The
> >> mom
> >>> told me that over the summer she paid thousands of dollars to have
> >> her son
> >>
> >>> tested by a private agency. (I do not know why the school did not
> >> test him
> >> for
> >>
> >>> special ed.) She does not have the results of the tests yet.> > In
> >> the
> >> meantime,
> >>> I need some ideas about what to do. I have already arranged to
meet
> >> with
> >> the
> >>> student one day a week after school to talk about what he
> >> understands, but
> >> one
> >>
> >>> day will not be enough to help him with everything. I cannot work
> >> with
> >> this
> >>> student every day -- I don't have the time.> > Suggestions?
Thoughts?
> >> Comments?>
> >>> Thanks!> Jan> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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>Lori Jackson
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>Todd County School District
>Box 87
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>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:13:25 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student
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>In a message dated 9/14/2007 8:56:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
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>As far  as I can tell for a student with a 504 plan for ADHD the only
thing
>necessary  is for the parent to say the student has ADHD and for the 
>teachers
>to agree  that's probably true.  (Although the second part seems not to
be
>always  necessary.)
>
>
>I believe that there has to be medical documentation as well.  We
can't go
>on the parents just saying it is so.  Also, it has to interfere  with
their
>ability to learn, which may not always be true.
>
>Rosie
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>Message: 12
>Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:25:23 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Rosie is correct, at least that is the way it works in KY.
>
>June
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