It's hard to sell the "inadvertant message" idea if we're listening to them read with a stopwatch in our hand. Grrrr.
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:14:30 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Comprehension strategies > and Harcourt> > I work with real kids and I consider them to be grand > thinkers. I think the> push to phonicate has little to do with development > and something to do with> the way we advertantly or inadvertantly message > what is important about> reading.> > Lori> > > On 2/13/08 8:34 AM, "Renee" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Has anyone taken into consideration some of > Piaget's theories, which> > would support children from second grade on down > being "less likely" to> > consider an assortment of ideas at the same time? I > am not trying to> > denigrate the abilities of children, but what kind of > comprehension are> > we looking for? Not counting the "word callers" and > "phonicators" who> > trip gayly through text and then look at you blankly, > I'm wondering if> > we aren't asking the "average kid" to know, do, and say > more than they> > are developmentally ready for? Can't we just let them enjoy > a story any> > more? Maybe tell us about their favorite part?> > > > Please > don't lecture me on standards. I'm talking about real kids.> > > > Renee> > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:30 AM, Patricia Kimathi wrote:> > > >> I agree I > see the same thing with my gifted 2nd graders. Comprehension> >> seems a > mystery. This has been a struggle, but we are almost there> >> Patricia > Kimathi> >> Mission Parent Representative> >> California Association for the > Gifted> >> 8465 South Van Ness Avenue> >> Inglewood, CA 90305> >> Phone: > 323.750.6559> >> Fax: 323.292.3626> >> Serving gifted students,> >> parents, > teachers, and administrators> >> of Los Angeles County> >> On Feb 11, 2008, > at 6:19 PM, Bonita DeAmicis wrote:> >> > >>> > >>> ---- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> >>>> I teach gifted 5th graders, but have taught regular 3rd through > 5th> >>>> as well> >>>> as gifted 3rd through 5th. Having my reading > endorsement, I too am> >>>> surprised> >>>> by the word callers at the > beginning of the year. This year I was> >>>> especially surprised because my > class did not seem to think that> >>>> comprehension was> >>>> important. Can > you imagine?> >>> > >>> It is my theory (totally unproven) that the trend > toward testing and> >>> basals has hurried our students into fluent reading > (ie word calling)> >>> at the expense of comprehension. The problem of > students who can> >>> sound out, read smoothly, and have no clue what it > means, has grown in> >>> recent years at the upper grades. I look forward to > a return to> >>> balance...> >>> > >>> :)Bonita> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________> >>> Mosaic mailing list> >>> > [email protected]> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership > please go to> >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/> >>> > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >>> > >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> >>> > >> > _______________________________________________> >> Mosaic mailing list> >> > [email protected]> >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership > please go to> >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/> >> > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> >> > >> Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> >> > >> > > "We the People of the United > States, in Order to form a more perfect> > Union, establish Justice, insure > domestic Tranquility, provide for the> > common defence, promote the general > Welfare, and secure the Blessings> > of Liberty to ourselves and our > Posterity, do ordain and establish this> > Constitution for the United States > of America."> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________> > > Mosaic mailing list> > [email protected]> > To unsubscribe or > modify your membership please go to> > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> > > > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.> > > > -- > > Lori Jackson> District Literacy Coach & Mentor> Todd County School District> > Box 87> Mission SD 57555> > http:www.tcsdk12.org> ph. 605.856.2211> > > > Literacies for All Summer Institute> July 17-20. 2008> Tucson, Arizona> > > > > > _______________________________________________> Mosaic mailing list> > [email protected]> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please > go to> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.> > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
