When we piloted the new form last spring, our observations that children
from classrooms where MOT thinking was emphasized and there was a consistent
expectation for written response in some form or another had NO TROUBLE with
the writing. I think that we need to balance the kinds of responses our
kiddos are doing.  Also, in my recent reading of Text Talk I became equally
convinced that when we talk about thinking strategies, we need to begin
collecting questions that relate to them so kids know how how they can think
relates to the question form.  Our testing last fall showed our kids have
trouble in the identification of themes and main idea.  A couple of teachers
began making the link to practice in the classroom with test forms (on the
DRA or standardized test, a question about theme might sound like
this...let's loot at these other questions---which ones do you think are
asking us think about theme or main idea).  Scores in these rooms are up
substantially at the end of the year.

Lori


On 5/20/08 8:57 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Although I have no answer specifically to Angela's situation.... her post
> prompted me to write some of my concerns for first graders..... I would like
> to  
> know especially from teachers who administer the dra 2 how they introduce the
>  written element of the test which starts at level M.....
>  
> Never given this test previously..... I can see why it might not be
> appropriate to administer the level M test to first graders.... however....
> our  
> district cut off is level M....... although my fluent readers can sail through
> the 
> decoding and even answer those comprehension questions at the end  orally as
> well as support their responses with evidence from the text  (at least some of
> them can) ... that is a far cry from writing their responses.  The length
> alone is daunting! Plus we have not taught them to enter responses in  their
> notebooks like that. We use sticky notes and graphic organizers.... kids  use
> their reader's notebook responses more for fueling their chats with their
> buddies...... 
>  
> I would think that somewhere after J and before M...... there is a need  to
> formally show kids how to answer questions (whether literal interpretative or
> reflective) in written responses that are more formal summaries.... My high
> flyers are aware of the kinds of information that might need to add but
> certainly they talk their way through this more than write their
> thoughts.....even
> the graphic organizers I provide are more for stream of  thoughts .....
>  
> I am interested to know if you do take formal steps to teach this kind of
> writing..... does it occur in your reader's workshop or your writer's workshop
> or does it more naturally occur when they are developmentally  ready?
>  
> I know as a grade level we added a unit of comprehension called retelling
> (verbal) before we even gave the DRA in the fall because at those early levels
> kids do not even know what elements to include in their retells.... our
> response  was overwhelmingly successful and kids did way better at the
> beginning of 
> this  year as compared to the results we gathered the year before. I am
> wondering  if the same holds true for beginning the writing of retelling.
> 
> 
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Literacies for All Summer Institute
July 17-20. 2008
Tucson, Arizona




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