I have mixed feelings about using nonsense words in instruction and/or in assessment. My school uses DIBELS but not as a battering ram. It's a screen/progress monitoring piece. I am uncomfortable with the possible connections between researchers, government advisors and publishers of educational materials. I am also uncomfortable giving children stuff to read that cuts off all cueing systems except for phonics. On the other hand, I have seen use of nonsense words be a pretty reliable and valid indicator of which kids are going to be just fine with phonics as a decoding tool compared to those that will need more intense instruction in use of that strategy. Cathy Title I Reading In a message dated 6/9/2008 4:40:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So that you can identify the student who has good sight recognition of common words but does not have a grasp of decoding unknown words. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:18 PM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group; [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Nonsense words What are you thoughts about teaching nonsense words in isolation---just so kids will do well on the dibels test? -------------- Original message -------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Not all books with nonsense words such as those are meant to teach phonics.B > I'm thinking of the book Jamberry.B What is a "jamberry"?B It's fun to play > with the silliness of language and it also shows kids how language can be played > with and manipulated to make new meanings.B Doing this also manipulates sounds, > not just meanings. This isB a great phonologicl/phonemic awareness tool.B Kids > often make up their own new words: my own kids say things like "prettiful" and > "overbalanced", knowing they are being silly. > > Cathy > Title I Reading > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: anne ehrmanntraut > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 2:00 pm > Subject: [MOSAIC] Nonsense words > > > > > tried to post something last night, but I didn't see the posting. So I will > ost it again. I am taking a literacy course in graduate school and I had a > uestion about books with nonwords or nonsense words. In our graduate class our > rofessor presented to us a book called "Hairy Bear" The book has sentences > uch as "I will crim cram crash'em" While these are not real words they are > eing used for phonics. Is it such a good idea to use books with words that are > eaningless? Do you use these type of books in the classroom? Thank you for > our help. -Anne > ________________________________________________________________ > nstantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you on > indows Liveb" Messenger. > ttps://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends > ______________________________________________ > osaic mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > o unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > ttp://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
