who is the author of PALS? ________________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcia Carrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:12 AM To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] question about PALS/DIBELS/DRA Correlation
PALS means Phonological Awareness Literacy Screening, Sorry. Thanks On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote: > First, what are you referring to with PALS? > > Second, in my opinion, trying to do what you're thinking of with > DIBELS and > guided reading levels would be like attempting to classify broccoli or > carrots into types of fruit. DIBELS doesn't test reading. > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Marcia Carrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> I went to a CORE RTI Institute training the last two days and I am >> excited about the opportunities we have a chance to make happen with >> our students that are falling through the cracks now. This is our >> school's first year using RTI, so we are now using DIDELS in all the >> grades. We previously used DRA (and CBMs) with every child to chart >> progress and to get information for placement in the flexible guided >> reading groups. Over the summer the Literacy committee, which I am >> on, decided that K-2 grade need to be assessed using the PALS because >> it assesses the 5 big components of the National Reading Panel more >> throughly and would give us more useful results to see what our >> intervention tiers (groups) should work on. Over the years, our >> district has really struggled with the areas of phonemic awareness >> and >> phonics. Our district has many other assessments, too (as do many >> districts), so we decided to only administer the DRA to those >> students >> that reached benchmark in PALS and not require the DRA to be given to >> the ones that are below benchmark. Our thinking was that the PALs can >> give us more information on what those "struggling" students are >> struggling with instead of only realizing that a student is not at >> grade level or needs more comprehension lessons which are pretty >> subjective when scored, anyway. >> However now since we are finally beginning to see the end of the >> tunnel with the assessing, we are now wanting to create our reading >> groups with all the students in our class including the students >> below >> benchmark and do not have a the nice chart that tells us what guided >> reading level to begin with like we did when we used DRAs for >> everyone. Does anyone have something that converts scores or a chart >> that compares the scores from PALS and/or DIBELS to the appropriate/ >> approximate guided reading level? We had planned to incorporate more >> mini-lessons in the areas PALs show are the weakest with the students >> that will be in TIERS 2 and 3 during the guided reading group time >> (regular instruction). I think our intentions are good. Yet, we need >> to make the best use of our students time and not just guess. We >> really don't want to test everyone using the DRA, either. Some >> teachers are trying the " just guess method" with the students' >> personal book baskets already while we are testing and finding it >> very >> hard to do. If anyone knows of a school district or an individual >> teacher that has any ideas or charts that they are willing to share >> with us, it would be very much appreciated. >> >> Marcia >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org >> . >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org > . > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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