For me Saxon and Everyday Math Spiral. I have found that children who start with either program in K or 1st have a better chance of understanding the program and progressing. To start it later means that there are many new concepts you have to learn all at once and it can be frustrating. Plus most schools don't buy all the components of either program and the components are essential for understanding. Pat K
"to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting." e.e. cummings On Sep 17, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote: > So then is Everyday Math akin to Saxon Math - a mile wide and an inch > deep? > What programs are there out there now that actually teach math > understanding? > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Storti, Donna > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> We have the HM program as well. I took the stories and assigned a >> strategy to go with each one. I am using it as a shared reading. The >> class can use the anthology if they choose to during free reading time >> if they want to reread the story. I am sorry to hear about Envisions, >> it looked like a good program, we are using Everyday Math and the >> children who struggle with math get lost in the tornado (that's what >> we >> call the spiral). >> >> Donna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan Matuga >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:30 AM >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] H & M Reading >> >> I cannot believe that in the slightest. The H&M program, especially >> as >> we are required to implement is the farthest thing from Ellin Keene as >> anything I can imagine. It is all direct and guided >> instruction....down >> to the smallest details. It is designed so robots can teach it. On >> Day >> 1, you do this, this, this, and that. You use transparency..., >> worksheet..., grammar..., We have even been "blessed" with a day by >> day >> writing program telling us what to do in writing each day. One week >> the >> teacher directly models a particular lesson. The next day, there is >> guided instruction on the same format (lesson and prompt scripted) and >> the third week (using the same format) there are daily scripted >> lessons >> where the children supposedly do independent writing using a script >> provided. We have a pacing calendar telling what to teach on what day >> and when to test. >> >> We also have daily guided/scripted lessons for math using a new >> program >> called Envision (YUCK!!!!). Our Planning Calendar gives us no leeway >> about how we can modify the program to meet the needs of the >> particular >> students in our class. In fact, the head of the math said, if the >> students don't understand it, "Just move on." We have just been >> given a >> planning calendar telling us which Science and Social lessons to teach >> on a particular week. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Beverlee Paul<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email >> Group<mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] H & M Reading >> >> >> And I didn't fall off the back of a turnip truck! >> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:08 PM, jeanette hayden >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Dear Colleagues: >>> I was at a presentation where a Literacy Coach made this statement " >>> Houghton Mifflin is based on the work of Ellin Keene and Stephanie >> Harvey. >>> I >>> was so taken back that I did not respond. Several of us present did >>> exchange >>> looks of surprise. What is the collective response to this >> statement? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Jeanette Hayden >>> Anchorage School District >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org< >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >> . >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at >> http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org< >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >> . >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at >> http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. 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