I Read It But I don't Get it
When Kids Can't Read: What Teachers Can Do

Lori


On 10/7/08 5:28 PM, "Stephanie Pincombe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My brother is a high school principal.  He is interested in Mosaic of
> Thought and wonders if anyone on this thread would have any suggestions for
> books, authors/researchers that would be suitable/directed toward both the
> typically developing adolescent and the struggling reader.
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> Any thoughts?
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> Steph
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>    1. reading entire book vs. part (Robin)
>    2. Re: reading entire book vs. part (Beverlee Paul)
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> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:03:42 -0700
> From: "Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MOSAIC] reading entire book vs. part
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> This is a really interesting thread to follow. I teach second grade and one
> of the things that I often think about is how to blend all the parts. For
> example, most of my students have fewer than 3-4 books of their own at home
> (if that). These are children whose parents are (mostly) NOT reading to them
> at home, not sharing favorite children's books (in any language), not taking
> them to story time at the library, etc.
> 
> So for me, I want to recreate the love of reading that my own children
> experienced when they were 2 and 3 and 4 and listening to books being read
> frequently throughout the day and at bedtime. Books that were often read
> over and over and over!
> 
> And yet I also need to use texts during reading workshop to share how
> readers think while they read, and during writer's workshop to model how
> authors put their words and thoughts together.
> 
> When I have (infrequently) tried to read a portion of a new book to my
> students while intentionally trying to use it as a mentor text, I find that
> my students have a very difficult time making the connections I want them to
> make UNTIL they really know the book. They want to know what happens, they
> want to know how it ends, they sometimes need to hear the vocabulary several
> times in order to understand what is happening in the story, etc.
> 
> So what I have tried to do is fit in reading to the children at odd times of
> the day (while they're eating their snack, first thing in the morning, if we
> need a quiet time to relax, etc. And for that first reading, I might do some
> brief "teacher-talk" (this is the author, I'm looking at the front cover and
> thinking about xxx, or the title makes me think that xxx, etc.) but I know
> the children's focus is on the story so that's what I do- I read them the
> story the same way I would have read the book to my kids when they were
> little.
> 
> And then, later, I can pick up that book and use it for all sorts of things
> (so far this week I've used one book for 3 different mini-lessons on reading
> strategies) and the children are much better able to delve into the book and
> all the learning that I want them to do with that text.
> 
> I think maybe with older kids I could get away with using bits and pieces of
> texts, but for my kids I do have a very strong feeling that in order to help
> them become lifelong readers I need to get them to love reading and part of
> that is sharing great books (the whole book) with them over and over.
> 
> Robin
> 
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> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 07:12:32 -0600
> From: "Beverlee Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] reading entire book vs. part
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> I so agree!!!  And I think we as teachers sometimes try to resist the
> mostly-correct intuitive feeling we have about this subject because we have
> such a great time reading, too, and we find ourselves feeling "guilty" about
> having too much fun in this standards-obsessed, accountability-crazed
> environment we're in.  I love Lester Laminack and Reba Wadsworth's book,
> Learning Under the Influence of Language and Literature, where they
> recommend up to 6 read-alouds a day.  First there is reading aloud at the
> beginning of the day to build community and do other kinds of things Robin
> is doing to build background and demonstrate the sound of literate
> language.  Second, another just to "put the sound of written language in
> the air," and can easily be done as transitions which Robin mentions.
> Third, the same as number two, but is poetry!!  How cool is that?  The
> fourth:  just what we've been talking about, to support the writers' (and
> readers') workshop.  The fifth: as part of content study, such as the civil
> rights movement or habitats or urban spread.  And last: at the end of the
> day after all the "getting ready to go" is completed.  "The focus of this
> selection should be on leading students toward sustaining a story in their
> minds and features a well-chosen chapter book, even with the youngest
> children."  The rest of the book supports these views.  If you can get this
> book on inter-library loan or from your library, it's well worth your time
> investment.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> This is a really interesting thread to follow. I teach second grade and
> one
>> of the things that I often think about is how to blend all the parts. For
>> example, most of my students have fewer than 3-4 books of their own at
> home
>> (if that). These are children whose parents are (mostly) NOT reading to
> them
>> at home, not sharing favorite children's books (in any language), not
> taking
>> them to story time at the library, etc.
>> 
>> So for me, I want to recreate the love of reading that my own children
>> experienced when they were 2 and 3 and 4 and listening to books being read
>> frequently throughout the day and at bedtime. Books that were often read
>> over and over and over!
>> 
>> And yet I also need to use texts during reading workshop to share how
>> readers think while they read, and during writer's workshop to model how
>> authors put their words and thoughts together.
>> 
>> When I have (infrequently) tried to read a portion of a new book to my
>> students while intentionally trying to use it as a mentor text, I find
> that
>> my students have a very difficult time making the connections I want them
> to
>> make UNTIL they really know the book. They want to know what happens, they
>> want to know how it ends, they sometimes need to hear the vocabulary
> several
>> times in order to understand what is happening in the story, etc.
>> 
>> So what I have tried to do is fit in reading to the children at odd times
>> of the day (while they're eating their snack, first thing in the morning,
> if
>> we need a quiet time to relax, etc. And for that first reading, I might do
>> some brief "teacher-talk" (this is the author, I'm looking at the front
>> cover and thinking about xxx, or the title makes me think that xxx, etc.)
>> but I know the children's focus is on the story so that's what I do- I
> read
>> them the story the same way I would have read the book to my kids when
> they
>> were little.
>> 
>> And then, later, I can pick up that book and use it for all sorts of
> things
>> (so far this week I've used one book for 3 different mini-lessons on
> reading
>> strategies) and the children are much better able to delve into the book
> and
>> all the learning that I want them to do with that text.
>> 
>> I think maybe with older kids I could get away with using bits and pieces
>> of texts, but for my kids I do have a very strong feeling that in order to
>> help them become lifelong readers I need to get them to love reading and
>> part of that is sharing great books (the whole book) with them over and
>> over.
>> 
>> Robin
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Lori Jackson
District Literacy Coach & Mentor
Todd County School District
Box 87
Mission SD  57555
 
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Literacies for All Summer Institute
July 17-20. 2008
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