Hi! I just found this discussion after finally getting a chance to go through 
my inbox...

I'm excited about this discussion because....
1. Our district has chosen to STOP using DIBELS this year! :)
2. We are going back to Rigby RRs (for K-2, ARIs for 3-5) for the year... but 
will be having discussions regarding running record kits and which kits will 
best meet our needs.

We feel that the books in Rigby's kit (we've had them for several years, but I 
think there is a newer version out there on the market) are a bit outdated, not 
culturally competent or relevant to our student population, and the 
comprehension questions may be a bit lacking. 

I'd love to hear more about the DRA stories and comprehension questions. 
They're more like discussion starters? Do they include a good balance of 
fiction/nonfiction?
Thanks for more information!!

Katherine (another state with a run-away Governor, Indiana! you just wouldn't 
believe...)



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Those are the same reasons I liked it. I know our first grade teachers 
preferred over Rigby; one reason was some of our first graders topped out of 
Rigby. 
I administered it to 5th graders and I felt it gave me a lot of information. I 
didn't use the writing portion because we already have a written respoonse 
rubric that teachers begin using in the fall that mirrors our state test. 

Carol 

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This is an excellent conversation that needs to continue:) 


Sure. It has been a while and I hope I remember accurately... those of 
you who 
use DRA, pipe up if you see I mischaracterize the DRA. We thought the 
text was 
more interesting and better quality in F and P. We liked the idea of 
comprehension conversations scored with a rubric rather than firing 
questions at 
kids or asking for a retelling. It seemed to mirror what we want to be 
going on 
in classrooms and was a more natural way to assess comprehension. We 
liked 
the?optional writing piece?(or drawing in the early levels) as a way to 
get 
at?understanding of text in a different way.?We liked the additional 
resources 
that came with the kits...an example- a guide for teachers that shows 
what the 
characteristics of kids are at particular levels and what teaching next 
steps 
might be. There are great staff development videos that teachers can 
watch to 
learn how to use the kit. There are dozens and dozens of different 
supplementary 
assessements like phonemic awareness, sight words, vocabulary knowledge 
etc 
etc.? It has a calculator which is a timer. You press a button when a 
child 
starts reading and then one when she stops. Enter the running words, 
number of 
errors and self corrections and the calculator will spit out 
percentages, self 
correction rates and words correct per minute. 
And... if I remember correctly, it is cheaper. 
Jennifer 






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Jane 
Sure. It has been a while and I hope I remember accurately... those of 
you who 
use DRA, pipe up if you see I mischaracterize the DRA. We thought the 
text was 
more interesting and better quality in F and P. We liked the idea of 
comprehension conversations scored with a rubric rather than firing 
questions at 
kids or asking for a retelling. It seemed to mirror what we want to be 
going on 
in classrooms and was a more natural way to assess comprehension. We 
liked 
the?optional writing piece?(or drawing in the early levels) as a way to 
get 
at?understanding of text in a different way.?We liked the additional 
resources 
that came with the kits...an example- a guide for teachers that shows 
what the 
characteristics of kids are at particular levels and what teaching next 
steps 
might be. There are great staff development videos that teachers can 
watch to 
learn how to use the kit. There are dozens and dozens of different 
supplementary 
assessements like phonemic awareness, sight words, vocabulary knowledge 
etc 
etc.? It has a calculator which is a timer. You press a button when a 
child 
starts reading and then one when she stops. Enter the running words, 
number of 
errors and self corrections and the calculator will spit out 
percentages, self 
correction rates and words correct per minute. 
And... if I remember correctly, it is cheaper. 
Jennifer 






Jennifer, Can you compare the Fountas and Pinnell kit to DRA2? 
Thanks! Jane in SC :-) (The state with the runaway Governor!) 
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