I have given each student a reading response notebook and reading log.
The purpose is to encourage these 2nd graders to read independently and
for me to be able to assess how much they understood what they read.  I
have only asked them to respond in one way, at this point.  I have asked
them to write 2 or more sentences telling me about their favorite parts
and why.  But I would like to have some variety for them to choose from
without being too complicated for this level.  I want to keep it
independent.

Does anyone have any specific response questions that include an
activity that can be done independently in a notebook?  
Jeannie



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   2. Re: Independent Reading Question (Waingort Jimenez, Elisa)
   3. Reading Recovery ([email protected])
   4. Re: Independent Reading Question (Jeanne Hunter)
   5. Re: Reading Recovery (Jeanne Crider)
   6. Re: book  clubs and resources for book clubs and workshop
      (Kathy Borden)
   7. Re: Reading Recovery (EDWARD JACKSON)
   8. Re: Reading Recovery (Waingort Jimenez, Elisa)
   9. Re: Reading Recovery ([email protected])
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Judy Dotson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
        <[email protected]>
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Where can you read this book online?



From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
<[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:02 PM



Hi Sharon,
Thanks for your response.? I'll have to read the book online and see how
I can use this tool, if at all. Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even
touched. They must be felt within the heart. 
?Helen Keller

Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message.
http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/



The response sheet is one that you make yourself based on what you want
your students to work on.? The 4 boxes in the top row are all based on
skills in response to the book - text response, comprehension, taxonomy
and word work. The 4 boxes on the bottom are strategy responses.? Right
now we are doing connections and visualization so those are the boxes
I'm choosing for my students to use.? They will change throughout the
year as we concentrate on different strategies.




On 9/20/09 9:41 AM, "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
> Can you describe how you use the 8-block response sheet?? I have the 
> sheet but since I have not read the book it's not clear what it's 
> purpose is. Thank you! Elisa
> 
> Elisa Waingort
> Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
> Dalhousie Elementary
> Calgary, Canada
> 
> The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even

> touched. They must be felt within the heart. -Helen Keller
> 
> Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message. 
> http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
>?
> I do something very similar.? My students have a reading response
notebook
> that they write in each day, every day I collect one group and respond
back.
> I've found that they are becoming better at responding and thinking
about
> their reader each week.? In addition, they are responsible for filling
out
> an 8 blocks response sheet each week for a book they are reading.?
This is
> from the book, Independent Reading Inside the Box by Lisa Donohue.? I
LOVE
> this book - it has really helped me find ways to make students
accountable
> for their reading and it gives us a great vehicle for discussion.
> 
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:26:24 -0600
From: "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
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At the Pembroke or Stenhouse websites.
Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even
touched. They must be felt within the heart. 
?Helen Keller

Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message.
http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/


Where can you read this book online?



From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
<[email protected]>
Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:02 PM



Hi Sharon,
Thanks for your response.? I'll have to read the book online and see how
I can use this tool, if at all. Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even
touched. They must be felt within the heart. 
-Helen Keller

Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message.
http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/



The response sheet is one that you make yourself based on what you want
your students to work on.? The 4 boxes in the top row are all based on
skills in response to the book - text response, comprehension, taxonomy
and word work. The 4 boxes on the bottom are strategy responses.? Right
now we are doing connections and visualization so those are the boxes
I'm choosing for my students to use.? They will change throughout the
year as we concentrate on different strategies.




On 9/20/09 9:41 AM, "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
> Can you describe how you use the 8-block response sheet?? I have the 
> sheet but since I have not read the book it's not clear what it's 
> purpose is. Thank you! Elisa
> 
> Elisa Waingort
> Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
> Dalhousie Elementary
> Calgary, Canada
> 
> The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even

> touched. They must be felt within the heart. -Helen Keller
> 
> Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message. 
> http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
>?
> I do something very similar.? My students have a reading response
notebook
> that they write in each day, every day I collect one group and respond
back.
> I've found that they are becoming better at responding and thinking
about
> their reader each week.? In addition, they are responsible for filling
out
> an 8 blocks response sheet each week for a book they are reading.?
This is
> from the book, Independent Reading Inside the Box by Lisa Donohue.? I
LOVE
> this book - it has really helped me find ways to make students
accountable
> for their reading and it gives us a great vehicle for discussion.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mosaic mailing list
> [email protected]
> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to 
> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.or
> g.
> 
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> 



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:33:13 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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It has been interesting following the discussion on Reading Recovery and
some ot its perceived pros and cons.? Unfortunately, making generalities
does not come close to depicting how RR can forever change the course of
a child's life. It was somewhat ironic to me that my own son needed RR,
especially since he was read to in utero and exposed to print both at
home in preschool.? His first grade teacher insisted that he was fine,
but the OS showed he did not know how to use all the bits and pieces he
had learned.? With the help and expertise of my mentor and LOTS of
patience, the light went on.? I will never forget that moment.? While he
only reads sports related material to this day, he made his bar
mitzvah,can read Hebrew, and is now in college.? Had he not learned to
read, I am not sure how he would have survived and progressed in his
school.





If a student exits from RR and begins to tank in second grade, perhaps
we need to ask ourselves if the classroom reading program is best suited
to that child.? Could it be that some students need something different
from most students in that class?? RR teaches a teacher how to think and
plan for each child, and this thinking and expertise might be beneficial
for some children throughout their education.? 





I am presently teaching ESL in another state and have found my RR
training to be invaluable in planning and teaching my students.? My goal
is not simply to teach English, but to build literacy while teaching
English.? RR has taught me how to think to target instruction for my
students and stay in their ZPD.? The regular classroom teachers are
thrilled with the support, accelerated student progress, and meaningful
referrals when needed.





RR has honed my thinking and teaching and as a result, hundreds of
students have benefitted from either my 1:1 RR lessons or classroom
instruction.? Most importantly, as I think about each child, I am always
reminded that each of these kids is someone's child and like my son,
they are entitled to the best of the best instruction.? RR has made that
possible. 

 



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:40:01 -0500
From: Jeanne Hunter <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
To: new MOT <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"


stenhouse.com  
 
> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:27:07 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
> 
> Where can you read this book online?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Independent Reading Question
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 5:02 PM
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Sharon,
> Thanks for your response.  I'll have to read the book online and see 
> how I can use this tool, if at all. Elisa
> 
> Elisa Waingort
> Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
> Dalhousie Elementary
> Calgary, Canada
> 
> The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even

> touched. They must be felt within the heart.
> ?Helen Keller
> 
> Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message. 
> http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> The response sheet is one that you make yourself based on what you 
> want your students to work on.  The 4 boxes in the top row are all 
> based on skills in response to the book - text response, 
> comprehension, taxonomy and word work. The 4 boxes on the bottom are 
> strategy responses.  Right now we are doing connections and 
> visualization so those are the boxes I'm choosing for my students to 
> use.  They will change throughout the year as we concentrate on 
> different strategies.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/20/09 9:41 AM, "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > Can you describe how you use the 8-block response sheet?  I have the

> > sheet but since I have not read the book it's not clear what it's 
> > purpose is. Thank you! Elisa
> > 
> > Elisa Waingort
> > Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
> > Dalhousie Elementary
> > Calgary, Canada
> > 
> > The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or 
> > even touched. They must be felt within the heart. -Helen Keller
> > 
> > Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message. 
> > http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > I do something very similar.  My students have a reading response 
> > notebook that they write in each day, every day I collect one group 
> > and respond back. I've found that they are becoming better at 
> > responding and thinking about their reader each week.  In addition, 
> > they are responsible for filling out an 8 blocks response sheet each

> > week for a book they are reading.  This is from the book, 
> > Independent Reading Inside the Box by Lisa Donohue.  I LOVE this 
> > book - it has really helped me find ways to make students 
> > accountable for their reading and it gives us a great vehicle for 
> > discussion.
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mosaic mailing list
> > [email protected]
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> > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.
> > org.
> > 
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> > 
> 
> 
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:12:29 -0500
From: "Jeanne Crider" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
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Very nicely said.  It's great that you were able to see the benefits
from 
the perspective of teacher and parent.  Congrats to your son on his Bar 
Mitzvah and for putting all those pieces together.
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From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:33 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery


> It has been interesting following the discussion on Reading Recovery 
> and some ot its perceived pros and cons.? Unfortunately, making 
> generalities does not come close to depicting how RR can forever 
> change the course of a child's life. It was somewhat ironic to me that

> my own son needed RR, especially since he was read to in utero and 
> exposed to print both at home in preschool.? His first grade teacher 
> insisted that he was fine, but the OS showed he did not know how to 
> use all the bits and pieces he had learned.? With the help and 
> expertise of my mentor and LOTS of patience, the light went on.? I 
> will never forget that moment.? While he only reads sports related 
> material to this day, he made his bar mitzvah,can read Hebrew, and is 
> now in college.? Had he not learned to read, I am not sure how he 
> would have survived and progressed in his school.
>
>
>
>
>
> If a student exits from RR and begins to tank in second grade, perhaps

> we need to ask ourselves if the classroom reading program is best 
> suited to that child.? Could it be that some students need something 
> different from most students in that class?? RR teaches a teacher how 
> to think and plan for each child, and this thinking and expertise 
> might be beneficial for some children throughout their education.?
>
>
>
>
>
> I am presently teaching ESL in another state and have found my RR 
> training to be invaluable in planning and teaching my students.? My 
> goal is not simply to teach English, but to build literacy while 
> teaching English.? RR has taught me how to think to target instruction

> for my students and stay in their ZPD.? The regular classroom teachers

> are thrilled with the support, accelerated student progress, and 
> meaningful referrals when needed.
>
>
>
>
>
> RR has honed my thinking and teaching and as a result, hundreds of 
> students have benefitted from either my 1:1 RR lessons or classroom 
> instruction.? Most importantly, as I think about each child, I am 
> always reminded that each of these kids is someone's child and like my

> son, they are entitled to the best of the best instruction.? RR has 
> made that possible.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> g.
>
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> 




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:23:48 -0600
From: "Kathy Borden" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] book  clubs and resources for book clubs and
        workshop
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
        <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Grand Conversations is a book worth its weight in gold.  I have used it
with teachers from grades 3 -8.  Look forward to reading the other
resource you cited.

Kathy Borden, Literacy Coach
Yellowknife Education District No. 1
[email protected]
1-867-445-4388





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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:01:31 +0000
From: EDWARD JACKSON <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Reading Recovery never failed to make a difference to a child in our
district, but it was not cost effective and the gains did not live up to
expectation. Our testing showed similar results--some short term gains
and a tendency for children to fall short of grade level expectations
with consistency through upper grades. At the risk of offending, I would
say that that failure cannot be placed only on the shoulders of the
reading recovery program. The ability to teach reading is not a given
among classroom teachers and in my former community, the consistency of
support outside of the walls of the classroom was rife.  We also saw
Reading Recovery misused, and again, this is my opinion, in that
children who clearly were struggling across the board and would
otherwise have been referred to a more holistic and long term support
system were instead placed into RR in hopes of salvation.  These
children always made some sort of improvement but their needs were
clearly going to be ongoing. I  believe this often prevented the 'ideal
candidates' from being services or relegated them to second round
servicing. Try as they might (our RR teachers were a WONDERFUL group),
second round kiddos seldom got the full benefits of the intervention.
Another issue was continuing contact.  Most of our schools overburdened
the RR teachers so that the discontinued child was simply thrown back
into the sea and expected to swim solo.  


Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist
Broken Bow, NE






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> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:28:04 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
> 
> I didn't say it was a waste of money.  I said it was an expensive
program.   I did work with first graders who made great gains, but after
they finished the "program" gains were made at a much slower pace (of
course, no more one on one).   I am glad for the training because I am a
much better teacher in my guided reading groups as to what to look for,
strategies, to use, etc.....   The 3 students that did not make gains
are due to the fact that they have learning disabilities.   That is the
one part I did not like about RR.  I do not want to be a special ed
teacher.   I witnessed other RR teachers making their children cry when
they could not read and forcing them to continue.   I do not agree with
that method.............. RR has its positives, it is just not for me,
at least not now.....  I missed too many things in the classroom.
> 
> --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Jeanne Crider <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Jeanne Crider <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 9:20 PM
> 
> 
> I am a Reading Recovery teacher.  Do you really think that helping the

> most struggling 1st graders is a waste of money?  Do you think that 
> these students would make greater gains being in a small group or
remaining in the classroom alone?  Children in Reading Recovery have a
program specifically designed for them.  It looks at their strengths and
builds on them.  In the classroom, teachers don't have time to focus on
one child with such intensity.  They don't have the time to spend
helping the child learn in the way that is best for them.  Classroom
teachers have too many other kids who each have their own needs.
Untangling the most confused 1st graders is certainly worth it in my
opinion.  By the way, I see more students in a day than any of the first
grade classroom teachers have in their classroom.  I work hard each and
every day to meet the needs of my students.  I'm sorry you had a bad
experience.  I guess it was a good idea that you  left if you don't
believe in the philosophy.  Maybe you should examine your own teaching
if the 3 students made no gains in your 2nd grade classroom.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susanne Lee"
<[email protected]>
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
<[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
> 
> 
> I did reading recovery for one year. I agree, it is a very expensive 
> program to serve just a few children. We did find gains, but I also 
> noticed that when they went to 2nd grade (I went to 2nd grade also), 
> they did plateau. In fact, last year, I had 3 of my reading recovery 
> kids and none of them gained a reading level during the year. I didn't

> believe in the philosophy of the program and that is why I left after 
> one year. I also felt in the second half of the year when i did 
> reading recovery, I was more of a special ed teacher than anything 
> else. I am not a huge advocate of the program, as you can see........
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/23/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
> To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 8:10 PM
> 
> 
> 
> We have two reading recovery teachers. Many of us feel that they do 
> not service enough kids. Meeting kids one on one is not the best use 
> of man power for our needy school,
> 
> We find that many of the kids that are exited plateau in 2nd grade.
> 
> ---- Hillary Marchel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> What are your feelings about Reading Recovery? Thanks, I know your 
>>> all busy. Hillary
>>>
>>>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:29:43 -0600
From: "Waingort Jimenez, Elisa" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
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Yes, Lori.  All good points.  Anytime a strategy or intervention is seen
as a "cure" we're in big trouble. Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

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Reading Recovery never failed to make a difference to a child in our
district, but it was not cost effective and the gains did not live up to
expectation. Our testing showed similar results--some short term gains
and a tendency for children to fall short of grade level expectations
with consistency through upper grades. At the risk of offending, I would
say that that failure cannot be placed only on the shoulders of the
reading recovery program. The ability to teach reading is not a given
among classroom teachers and in my former community, the consistency of
support outside of the walls of the classroom was rife.  We also saw
Reading Recovery misused, and again, this is my opinion, in that
children who clearly were struggling across the board and would
otherwise have been referred to a more holistic and long term support
system were instead placed into RR in hopes of salvation.  These
children always made some sort of improvement but their needs were
clearly going to be ongoing. I  believe this often prevented the 'ideal
candidates' from being services or relegated them to second round
servicing. Try as they might (our RR teachers were a WONDERFUL group),
second round kiddos seldom got the full benefits of the intervention.
Another issue was continuing contact.  Most of our schools overburdened
the RR teachers so that the discontinued child was simply thrown back
into the sea and expected to swim solo.  


Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist
Broken Bow, NE






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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:58:53 EDT
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
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What Michigan tried to do was make all teachers "Reading Recovery"
teachers 
 by teaching them the Reading Recovery strategies so that they could use

them  with those students who needed them ( MLPP training). Why should
just a 
few  teachers be privy to them? I loved the concept and supported it  
strongly but I'm not sure if it is still working. It kind of stalled
with  NCLB 
and the NRP I think. Any other Michigan teachers want to jump in  here?
 
Nancy 
 
 
In a message dated 9/27/2009 9:54:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Yes,  Lori.  All good points.  Anytime a strategy or intervention is
seen  
as a "cure" we're in big trouble.
Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2  Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

The best  and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even 
touched. They  must be felt within the heart. 
?Helen Keller

Visit my blog, A  Teacher's Ruminations, and post a  message.
http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/



Reading  Recovery never failed to make a difference to a child in our 
district, but it  was not cost effective and the gains did not live up
to 
expectation. Our  testing showed similar results--some short term gains
and a 
tendency for  children to fall short of grade level expectations with
consistency 
through  upper grades. At the risk of offending, I would say that that 
failure cannot  be placed only on the shoulders of the reading recovery
program. 
The ability  to teach reading is not a given among classroom teachers
and 
in my former  community, the consistency of support outside of the walls
of 
the classroom  was rife.  We also saw Reading Recovery misused, and
again, 
this is my  opinion, in that children who clearly were struggling across
the 
board and  would otherwise have been referred to a more holistic and
long 
term support  system were instead placed into RR in hopes of salvation.
These 
children  always made some sort of improvement but their needs were
clearly 
going to be  ongoing. I believe this often prevented the 'ideal
candidates' 
from being  services or relegated them to second round servicing. Try as

they might (our  RR teachers were a WONDERFUL group), second round
kiddos 
seldom got the full  benefits of the intervention. Another issue was
continuing 
contact.  Most  of our schools overburdened the RR teachers so that the 
discontinued child was  simply thrown back into the sea and expected to
swim 
solo.   


Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist
Broken Bow,  NE






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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:19:40 -0700
From: Renee <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Recovery
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Nancy, in the school district I worked in for ten years (in San Jose,  
CA) we did essentially the same thing. We had "officially trained and  
certified" RR teachers, AND primary teachers were given training on RR  
strategies to use them in the classroom. I thought it worked quite  
well. We had the RR teacher for support and she worked with a few  
students from each primary classroom.

Renee

On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:58 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> What Michigan tried to do was make all teachers "Reading Recovery"
> teachers
>  by teaching them the Reading Recovery strategies so that they could  
> use
> them  with those students who needed them ( MLPP training). Why should

> just a
> few  teachers be privy to them? I loved the concept and supported it
> strongly but I'm not sure if it is still working. It kind of stalled  
> with  NCLB
> and the NRP I think. Any other Michigan teachers want to jump in
here?
>
> Nancy
>
>
> In a message dated 9/27/2009 9:54:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Yes,  Lori.  All good points.  Anytime a strategy or intervention is
> seen
> as a "cure" we're in big trouble.
> Elisa
>
> Elisa Waingort
> Grade 2  Spanish Bilingual
> Dalhousie Elementary
> Calgary, Canada
>
> The best  and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or 
> even touched. They  must be felt within the heart. ?Helen Keller
>
> Visit my blog, A  Teacher's Ruminations, and post a  message. 
> http://waingortgrade2spanishbilingual.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Reading  Recovery never failed to make a difference to a child in our 
> district, but it  was not cost effective and the gains did not live up
> to
> expectation. Our  testing showed similar results--some short term  
> gains and a
> tendency for  children to fall short of grade level expectations with

> consistency
> through  upper grades. At the risk of offending, I would say that that
> failure cannot  be placed only on the shoulders of the reading  
> recovery program.
> The ability  to teach reading is not a given among classroom teachers

> and
> in my former  community, the consistency of support outside of the  
> walls of
> the classroom  was rife.  We also saw Reading Recovery misused, and  
> again,
> this is my  opinion, in that children who clearly were struggling  
> across the
> board and  would otherwise have been referred to a more holistic and  
> long
> term support  system were instead placed into RR in hopes of  
> salvation.  These
> children  always made some sort of improvement but their needs were  
> clearly
> going to be  ongoing. I believe this often prevented the 'ideal  
> candidates'
> from being  services or relegated them to second round servicing. Try

> as
> they might (our  RR teachers were a WONDERFUL group), second round  
> kiddos
> seldom got the full  benefits of the intervention. Another issue was  
> continuing
> contact.  Most  of our schools overburdened the RR teachers so that
the
> discontinued child was  simply thrown back into the sea and expected  
> to swim
> solo.
>
>
> Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist
> Broken Bow,  NE
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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