Me too.  Thanks for your comment.  I was a little afraid that using that
descriptor might offend some people for religious reasons.  But I meant it
most sincerely, the moments that radically changed my understanding of
teaching and learning.  One of my moments was finally getting to learn about
teaching/learning after settling down from 18 moves in 20 years as a
military wife.  I had taught all those years but not necessarily very well
as I had almost zero professional development.  This was the year in
California of really taking on the teaching of writing.  And I was a college
and high school English teacher.  When I finally read all the research, I
can still remember standing on a table in the basement of the university
library and calling out very loudly in anger, why didn't I know this 60
years of research?  Why didn't I know that teaching grammar in isolation of
real writing was not only useless but counterproductive.  Why didn't I
know.....  The Goodmans, yes, and the whole language summer conferences were
more life changing moments.

My personal metaphor for teaching has always been a kaleidoscope.  (I love
kaleidoscopes.)  But I see these beautiful patterns (current schema/theory)
Holding and trembling as new insights come in that can't be assimilated and
the moment when it all tumbles and a new pattern emerges.  Have felt a bit
guilty that my metaphor is not organic - like a plant or flower (and I
actually like those) but the born again/Kaleidoscope metaphors prevail.
Sally


On 5/23/11 8:13 AM, "Mena" <[email protected]> wrote:

> OMG...Sally I always refer to the early 90's when I heard Yetta and Kenneth
> Goodman speak at a whole language conference as a "born again" teacher moment!
> Mena
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Philomena Marinaccio-Eckel, Ph.D.
> Florida Atlantic University
> Dept. of Teaching and Learning
> College of Education
> 2912 College Ave. ES 214
> Davie, FL  33314
> Phone:              954-236-1070
> Fax:  954-236-1050
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> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 10:06 pm
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Common Core - response to feeling the standards
> arealways helpful
> 
> 
> I want to second Sally's invitation. I hope many of you will be able to make
> it. 
> 
> Elisa
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sally Thomas <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 14:11:41
> To: mosaic listserve<[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
>     <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Common Core - response to feeling the standards are
>  always helpful
> 
> Kaui, You actually prove my point in your reply.  I hear that you defer to
> the "powers that be" instead of trusting your own professional knowledge
> about teaching and learning.  I understand that you believe you have to do
> this for the kids so they will pass the test.  But what if the test is not
> worthwhile?  What if it is not helping your kids be the best they can be?
> 
> I can hear how much you want to be there for your students and are searching
> for answers that will help them, so I offer the following as a possible path
> to take in that search.  I well remember MANY TIMES along the way in my own
> general when I had to start intensive inquiries into my educational beliefs
> and practices.  I call them my "born again" times (with no disrespect
> intended for those to whom is this strictly a religious matter!).
> 
> The teachers I network with, the research and informed education news and
> current educational books that I read regularly AND just as important what
> I've learned from and with children in my many classrooms over the years -
> all that tells me that the powers that be don't know very much about
> teaching.  And they haven't even tried.  For one thing, they've never even
> taught by and large.  They haven't included our best educational leaders and
> our best teachers in their planning.  And the tests measure only a
> superficial layer of what children need to know to be truly successful
> throughout their schooling and lives. This not to even mention the dreadful
> consequences of the constant testing time used up and pressures and stress
> felt by all.  Standards and testing are going hand and hand in creating this
> situation. 
> 
> The standards are leading to school experiences that are more and more
> fragmented (almost because teachers want them to be more and more specific
> sadly - I do understand this urge).  Problem is children do not remember
> information which is not experienced in meaningful contexts.  They can learn
> it briefly sometimes (the spelling test on Friday is a great example - they
> forget it in their writing the next week! The kids that don't forget it by
> Monday usually had the words in the first place so the testing didn't really
> teach them anything - just gave them a privilege over the others.) Learning
> has to really hook to prior schema and hook deep to stay there.  So they
> will not actually learn all the separate standards lessons for the test
> anyway.
> 
> I'd like to invite you to participate in a list serve discussion next week
> on email.  It happens 6 - 7:30 pm each day Eastern standard time - adjust in
> different time zones.  We will be discussing Ken and Yetta Goodman's
> Declaration of Professional Conscience.  This is part II of a previous
> discussion a month ago.  That was rich and wide ranging and has led to many
> of us joining the challenge of gaining back respect for teachers and
> educators who have actually lived their work through the years, committed to
> what is best for their students, committed to life long learning and so on.
> 
> http://www.rcowen.com/rcoprfdv.htm
> 
> The invitation is open to anyone who would like to be included.  It's asked
> that you read the Declaration (on the web page announcement) before joining
> in.  Even if you won't be home or at your computer, you can sign up and you
> will get home to a plethora of emails all discussing back and forth
> implications of different issues dealt with in the Declaration.  And you can
> add to the discussion your ideas later in the evening, tho some won't be
> responded to till the next day.  TLN listserve by the way stands for The
> Learning Network.  We have great discussions all the time but these focused
> discussion are giving all of us courage and more courage to stand up to
> those "powers that be" that think they know more than we do about children
> and teaching and learning.
> 
> In solidarity,
> 
> Sally
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/22/11 11:41 AM, "kaui norton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for your thoughts. I do see your point. I suppose I should say
>> that,
>> although standards teaching may not be the best solution to our ongoing
>> struggles to educate, it is, nevertheless, here to stay.  At least, till the
>> powers that be change their minds again!
>> When I say I like it, it is because I am tired of teaching a gadzillion
>> standards and benchmarks that are vague to say the least.  In Hawai'i we have
>> a ridiculous number of standards to teach.  It has always been a guessing
>> game
>> for many teachers as to how to apply the standards mandated by our state.
>>  Many teachers, old and new, are totally lost because there is no direction
>> in
>> how to go about teaching to the standards, thus, we have teachers who don't
>> teach them resulting in students who move on without the knowledge that they
>> are expected to learn.
>> Unfortunately, testing is always going to "drive" how we teach and what we
>> teach.  I don't see it changing any time soon.  So...if that is so, then I
>> believe I need to do the best, for my students, with what I am given. Of
>> course, I will make every effort to fill the holes that appear.  Honestly, I
>> feel we are fighting a losing battle and need to cut our losses. I do know,
>> they can't mandate, yet, how I teach the standards or what else I teach with
>> them. THerefore, it is my responsibility to ensure my students get more than
>> what they need to pass a test.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/22/11 11:41 AM, "kaui norton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for your thoughts. I do see your point. I suppose I should say
>> that,
>> although standards teaching may not be the best solution to our ongoing
>> struggles to educate, it is, nevertheless, here to stay.  At least, till the
>> powers that be change their minds again!
>> When I say I like it, it is because I am tired of teaching a gadzillion
>> standards and benchmarks that are vague to say the least.  In Hawai'i we have
>> a ridiculous number of standards to teach.  It has always been a guessing
>> game
>> for many teachers as to how to apply the standards mandated by our state.
>>  Many teachers, old and new, are totally lost because there is no direction
>> in
>> how to go about teaching to the standards, thus, we have teachers who don't
>> teach them resulting in students who move on without the knowledge that they
>> are expected to learn.
>> Unfortunately, testing is always going to "drive" how we teach and what we
>> teach.  I don't see it changing any time soon.  So...if that is so, then I
>> believe I need to do the best, for my students, with what I am given. Of
>> course, I will make every effort to fill the holes that appear.  Honestly, I
>> feel we are fighting a losing battle and need to cut our losses. I do know,
>> they can't mandate, yet, how I teach the standards or what else I teach with
>> them. THerefore, it is my responsibility to ensure my students get more than
>> what they need to pass a test.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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