Norma, Last post on this one, I promise ...seems my last post got cut off.... have you considered having some consultants from reading and writing project do workshops on RW... one in particular that i love is Monique Lopez Paniaques from Elmhust School in Queens, New York. . She is wonderful because she is in the trenches as well as a consultant with Columbia background (I think a double masters) and she is very familiar with upper elementary....I don't have her email but perhaps you can track her down :) ... even though I have attended many workshops from TC, Monique has a gentle way of breaking down the minilesson framework and then provides templates for all the varieties of reading that can and should occur as prescribed by both RW and daily five with Cafe.... She makes a big deal about the timing of the minilesson, the differences and need for all of the following... read aloud, guided groups, strategy groups, and independent conferences and give sample lessons for all .... she also has provided a wonderful comparison demonstration model of kids who are only reading at 85% accuracy... 90% accuracy and 95% accuracy... which should drive the point home about why same text for all (even class novels) is not the way to go.... then she shows how to make teaching points in the in a read aloud only (with a class novel) so that kids who might not enjoy harder text still have access... as she guides the strategy or skill in that novel which is a whole separate piece away from reading workshop and done at a separate time... which she names as read aloud... ( again...not in the RW block but a separate block later or earlier in the day)but as you can see the link is in the strategy. I think this satisfies the best of all practices with no compromise at all.... of course depending on the number of groups during your reader's workshop (phase 2) requires much more effort on the teacher... but well worth it. Pam In a message dated 8/19/2011 1:19:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Norma, I think that RW is a huge piece if teachers have been doing whole class novels... You are absolutely right that the Cafe model will help ease some of the frenzy into a more manageable piece for the independent part of reading workshop. That much said...more work should be done with RW... have you considered having so In a message dated 8/17/2011 2:42:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In my effort to be succinct I clearly was very unclear! Also I was trying to word it more positively than this. We had been slowly implementing RW in our building. That's in no way to say everyone is willing and/or doing so successfully. We still have many people dragging their class thru the whole class novel. Now we are doing our PD on the Cafe model (3-5 building). My thought is that for those that are attempting to do RW, the Cafe will/might provide them with management tools to perhaps make it become a reality. But, how is this going to assist those less willingly and/or knowledgeable to move forward? My thought is that I don't see how it will. But, I am hoping to be wrong and was throwing it out to people who have had more experience with both to see what they thought. Hopefully this is clearer! Thanks! norma An old man once said, "There comes a time in your life, when you walk away from all the drama and people who create it. You surround yourself with people who make you laugh. Forget the bad, and focus on the good. Love the people who treat you right, pray for the ones who don't. Life is too short to be anything but happy. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living." ---------- Original Message ---------- From: [email protected] To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Workshop and/or Cafe model Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:02:03 +0000 Norma and others, I'm confused. Why do you think that CAFE is a management model and how do you see RW as dragging the class through the reading of a whole class novel? CAFE is not a management tool (I prefer to use the word "system") but a "menu" of strategies and skills you would use to guide your teaching of reading. D5 is the Sister's framework for managing a literacy block in the classroom. The idea of D5 is to give kids time with authentic literacy experiences. Reading Workshop has its own structures and is far from being a framework for "dragging" a class through a whole class novel. In fact, reading workshop is the best way I know how to get away from the whole class novel as kids are reading books of their own choice. I am curious (and baffled) as to where people are getting their definitions as regards these various literacy models. Thank you, Elisa Calgary Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "norma baker" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:40:19 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group" <[email protected]> Subject: [MOSAIC] Reading Workshop and/or Cafe model Our district was slowing inching towards implementing a Reading Workshop model (ala Calkins) and have now shifted gears towards the Cafe model. I have questions for anyone who's familiar with both. How do you see them meshing? What are the advantages of the Cafe over the RW model? Are there any? Do you have any advice for us? I guess my concerns are that the Cafe model looks great in helping with the management piece but is what I would consider to be step 2 in this whole process. We need to implement the model (students reading on their own level rather than drag the class thru one novel) before teachers have something to manage. Please share any insight you all have into this! Thanks! norma An old man once said, "There comes a time in your life, when you walk away from all the drama and people who create it. You surround yourself with people who make you laugh. Forget the bad, and focus on the good. Love the people who treat you right, pray for the ones who don't. Life is too short to be anything but happy. 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