Great points!!!!!!! On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Renee <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is no one right way to teach, and no one program that will meet the > needs of all students. To me, the term, "packaged program for balanced > literacy" is inherently an oxymoron. For those of us who came of age in our > classrooms in the early to mid 90s, who learned to use running records as a > matter of course during guided reading groups and miscue analyses for more > information, who were encouraged by administrators to use a workshop > approach with heterogeneous classrooms, who used real literature (some > leveled, some not), who learned to document our kidwatching with action > terms and not editorial terms, who moved through our days doing individual > and small group conferencing, who developed ways to help students drive > their own learning and do ongoing self-assessments, this incessant gathering > of data and overuse of programs is rather distressing, especially when it is > being driven from way at the top by people far, far removed from the > classroom. > > More two cents... > Renee > > > > On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:40 PM, jeanette hayden wrote: > > Could you please define "OLDER". And please explain your 'kid-watching' >> training. Was that by the Goodman's? >> >> Some of we 'Elders' have been hit in the head by the pendulum a few times. >> So please forgive us. >> Many of my student teachers are trained to do standard based lessons, but >> know nothing about book levels, thematic or integrated teaching, running >> records, etc. >> New to the profession are wonderful techies. >> Just had a conversation with someone wanting to do her research on 'guided >> reading groups' and how effective they were. >> >> Remember, Regie Routman's Literacy at the Crossroads was in the late 90's. >> >> Jeanette Hayden >> >> >> On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:37 AM, Felicia Barra wrote: >> >> I would also agree. I teach in a fairly large district (9 elementary >>> schools) where we've adopted a packaged program for balanced literacy. >>> It's >>> not perfect but a good start. The older teachers want a step by step >>> scripted curriculum with a workbook which teaches skills not strategies. >>> It >>> is the younger teachers who have continued to do research, further their >>> education and read professionally that understand what needs to be done. >>> I >>> even have a colleague that displays worksheets on her classroom bulletin >>> board! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: >>> mosaic-bounces+fcbsmom3=optonl**[email protected]<[email protected]> >>> [mailto:mosaic-bounces+**fcbsmom3 <mosaic-bounces%2Bfcbsmom3>= >>> optonline.net@**literacyworkshop.org<[email protected]>] >>> On >>> Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 8:07 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] title 1 reading - help >>> >>> Oh wow. I see absolutely the opposite! Most of the newer teachers I >>> see were at least trained in kid-watching. I see older teachers who >>> want a manual and step by step scripted curriculum. Or want to >>> continue the books and worksheets they have used for 15 or 20 years! >>> In fact, I just had a conference with my own daugher's teacher. My >>> daughter is left handed. The room only had right hand desks. I wanted >>> it changed. The teacher said no one has ever had a problem in 20 >>> years. Really? Or she never noticed? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Renee <[email protected]> >>> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 7:30 pm >>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] title 1 reading - help >>> >>> >>> I absolutely agree! I am concerned that it seems that newer/younger >>> teachers are less and less able to rely on their own observations, >>> and that it seems the norm to instantly look for a program of some >>> kind, rather than cultivate the knowledge and observational skills >>> necessary for good kid-watching. And once again, this is not a >>> criticism of newer/younger teachers... it is a criticism of the >>> system and their trainers. >>> >>> Renee >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> http://literacyworkshop.org/**mailman/options/mosaic_** >>> literacyworkshop.org<http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at >>> http://snipurl.com/**MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> >>> >>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/**mailman/options/mosaic_** >> literacyworkshop.org<http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at >> http://snipurl.com/**MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> >> >> > "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit > atrocities." > ~ Voltaire > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/**mailman/options/mosaic_** > literacyworkshop.org<http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> > > Search the MOSAIC archives at > http://snipurl.com/**MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive> > > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive
