so glad someone else has read Phinney.  She really helped with my 5/6 grade 
struggling readers!
think you'd like Dudley-Marling - a rich rich resource book.  Agree with what 
you say!
On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Linda Rightmire wrote:

> Great tips re books -- Phinney was important to me but I didn't know she
> called herself that, pretty cool. :-)  Did not know that other book; will
> seek. :-)  Yes I agree as to not overdoing the blending and stuff but when
> I see kids that just pick any letter in the word and guess (especially at
> grade two), often not even in context, I think basics of this type are
> important -- I think they need to know there *is* a system and it's not a
> mystery. But the experiential side of it and all those other suggestions
> people gave are a huge part of the program. I think it's Pat Cunningham who
> says work with *systematic* phonics and don't overdo the time allowed.
> Example, 'making words' I think it's called in Phonics They Use -- the kids
> love this (I have a simpler version, don't have the kids use envelopes with
> pre-made letters), but really, you get the most value out of it in the
> first fifteen or twenty minutes. Then move on. At two and a half hours for
> Language Arts (our old-style time allotment), that gives you a lot of time
> for other approaches.
> 
> Linda
> 
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Sally Thomas 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> My expertise is in reading/literacy and many years of teaching experience
>> albeit with "at risk" students often, e.g. basic (below) English classes
>> high school where up to half my students were RSP (learning disabilities)
>> and had the inclusion cluster of 7 - 8 children in my 5/6 multiage
>> classroom.  And my last years teaching in a 2/3 class of Native American
>> children behind in reading.   I have only the fuzziest belief in special ed
>> as a separate category of disabilities but that's another story.  Lots of
>> cross study in special ed with the more progressive line of thinkers there.
>> 
>> sooo have had many children meeting literacy challenges thru the years.
>> Two books that were of enormous practical help to me were Reading with the
>> Troubled Reader by Margaret Phinney and Readers and Writers with a
>> Difference by Curt Dudley-Marling.  Both authors expertise in special
>> education but both clearly believe in learning as constructivist.  Margaret
>> calls her self a whole language special ed teacher (that was back in the
>> day!  I still claim whole language -- to heck with those who disavowed it.)
>> anyway, just a thought.
>> 
>> I have read quite a bit about blending being very hard for some kids and
>> not at all the approach to use always.
>> Better to use onset/rhyme.  Much more natural to teach by word families
>> and analogy.   bat cat sat/light fright etc.
>> And I also believe strongly in language experience with kids writing their
>> own stories with your scaffolding and reading their own writing!!!  and
>> lots and lots of joyful experience reading meaningful texts (at appropriate
>> levels - just right) but worth reading and rereading.  Songs come to mind
>> too.
>> 
>> Just some thoughts.
>> Sally
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 24, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Linda Rightmire wrote:
>> 
>>> In a volunteer (one-to-one) setting, I was working with three students in
>>> grade two and three, individually, a half hour each. The one little boy
>> was
>>> in clearly a different boat than the others -- they were "behind" (a
>>> little), while he was clearly *at sea*, completely worried about reading,
>>> it appeared, and much guessing. Didn't like to read, etc.
>>> 
>>> I observed both a *lack of directionality* (left to right, that is) and
>> an
>>> unawareness/inability with *blending* (or even the notion of that).
>>> 
>>> These are the suggestions I wrote up to share with the others that worked
>>> with this little boy (in gr. 2).
>>> 
>>> Linda Rightmire
>>> SD #73 Kamloops, BC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ================
>>> 
>>> Early Reading Confusions
>>> 
>>> Marie Clay, who developed Reading Recovery (a much researched one-to-one
>>> early grades reading intervention), liked to call them 'tiny tots with
>>> tangled knots'. This is what I saw with Austin.
>>> 
>>> Two major problems -- directionality and blending -- he appears to have
>>> neither (this as of a few weeks back, the only time I saw him).
>>> 
>>> DIRECTIONALITY --  children must have an absolutely grounded sense it all
>>> starts on the left. Austin randomly grabs some letter in the word and
>>> "guesses".
>>> 
>>> Simple example, common for people to point to the ending of a word --
>> "you
>>> need a 's' sound here" or some such. Clay teaches, *always* start with
>> your
>>> (adult) finger on the left of the word to re-inforce this left-to-right
>>> directionality (sliding it over while you say the sounds to get to that
>>> ending). (We also teach chunking -- this was referred to in the workshop
>>> and would be applicable with longer words.)
>>> 
>>> Directionality can be reinforced in this gimmick for teaching how to
>>> remember b and d -- huge issue that lasts for some kids into even grade
>>> three and four. I found this method to be far better than the classic
>>> "bed", a visual device many teachers use -- better probably because of
>> the
>>> motor and kinesthetic (muscle) involvement in the practice (multi-sensory
>>> in several ways -- voice, hands, head).
>>> 
>>> • get the child (you model) to make with EACH hand the shape we sometimes
>>> make to signal "A-okay" -- the thumb and forefinger touching tips to
>> make a
>>> circle, but you must keep the remaining fingers quite rigid and straight
>> up
>>> -- stress this because it (a) looks more like a b and d but also (b)
>>> because of the muscular *effort*, the impact on memory is bigger.
>>> 
>>> • then you remind the child, "all reading is left to right, right?" and
>> you
>>> note how their alphabet on the classroom wall starts with a on the left.
>>> There is, with your hands, an *imaginary* a on the left of the left hand
>>> that makes a b, and an *imaginary* c in between the hands (prior to the
>> d).
>>> 
>>> • you model and insist the child do all these actions -- head nods down
>>> toward the 'a' (imaginary) while you say "A", then nods down (touching,
>> or
>>> not) to the 'b' and say "B", then nod to the middle and the imaginary 'c'
>>> and say "C", then nod to the right hand, the 'd' (touching or not) and
>> say
>>> "D". Do it slow and even a little exaggerated. (Praise, etc.)
>>> 
>>> I have insisted kids practice this, frequently would ask them to show
>> me. I
>>> observed even kids as late as grade three and four in their reading *and*
>>> their writing, doing this with their hands down in their laps while they
>>> tried to remember which was which. Yes be a tyrant about it --  but a fun
>>> tyrant. :-)
>>> 
>>> BLENDING
>>> 
>>> I note that Austin seemed to be completely at sea about this. We teach
>>> children to start at the left and to HUM the sounds together (but you may
>>> need to spend time learning what "humming" is! -- many kids don't know
>> the
>>> word, assume nothing). Children often haven't been explicitly taught this
>>> step, from the separated sounds to (slowly) HUMMING them together.
>>> 
>>> First, though, we work on "saying it fast" and "saying it slow". This is
>>> done through long nonsense words that we rhyme, first.
>>> 
>>> "My turn: hamburger, ramburger, famburger... " etc. "Okay *you* pick a
>> long
>>> word, what shall we try?" (Maybe the child's name, or something else
>>> familiar -- "Celista" -- whatever.) "Celista, Melista, Welista" etc. The
>>> child may need a little or a lot of practices to get the hang of this.
>>> (Then, "My turn: Christmas, wismas, sismas, fismas" or whatever. Etc.)
>> It's
>>> commonplace that the kids needing the extra help are not at all
>> *flexible*
>>> with their phonemic awareness (and manipulation) -- (the Anna Banna Bo
>>> Banna song is a classic and perfect 'game' re this).
>>> 
>>> Then you are going to work with "saying it slow" -- make it a game, "I'm
>>> going to try to trick you" -- "ham......  bur...... ger". Of course the
>>> child knows you are saying 'hamburger'. Pick a few long words to do.
>>> 
>>> Then you will work on single short words (this is all auditory so you
>> don't
>>> need to restrict yourself to CVC words -- consonant-vowel-consonant). You
>>> pick a word like "made" -- first completely separate the sounds
>> mmmm.....
>>> ay....   d....  and then demonstrate how you will BLEND (use that word)
>>> them together -- but still quite slowly. (I often get kids, my hand on
>>> their dominant hand, to slide left to right, across the table or even
>> their
>>> knee, to add to the kinesthetic factor.) After you use a few simple
>> words,
>>> switch it up by using the child's name, school name, child's mom's name,
>>> etc. Get the child to pick some words to try to trick you by saying them
>>> slow -- if he can't think of a word you can say, "pick a word from your
>>> spelling" or "pick a word from the title" etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> WORD FAMILIES
>>> 
>>> Just to note, through all the phonics "wars" etc. -- word families are
>> one
>>> of the few constants that research has supported (forever). You can make
>> it
>>> fun by saying, "Okay we need some exercise" and then you are going to
>>> *jump* to "mad.... sad.... bad.... glad....  had...  "   The kids will
>> all
>>> have worked with word families but some may have trouble bringing
>> examples
>>> to mind so you can say, "Okay now we're doing the -at family" -- say a
>> few
>>> first (four or five), then "Okay here we go!"  Etc.
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