What is the level of English I wonder that your school accepts in taking in ELL 
students?  Is there a 'standard' that is being met before students are being 
admitted?  What is the ELL testing before the students enter?  It takes seven 
years for a non-English speaker to develop the level of academic vocabulary to 
be on an par with native English speakers so yes we are expecting so much if we 
expect these kids to even sit SATs.  There are a number of strategies that you 
can try in supporting them.  The first is to request from teachers key unit 
vocabulary.  The students can then use Google translate to translate the words 
or some other tool to determine what the Engish word is and to be familiar with 
it.  It would be expected that the school is offering some sort of support in 
terms of a 'differentiated' instruction program to support these kids.   Text 
books with detailed pictures, diagrams, headings.  Where possible diagrams 
should be drawn on
 whitebaords with vocabulary and the explanation of concepts.   It would be 
really helpful if the students could have all presentations/slideshows used 
after the classes and that they be allowed to use IT to record lessons for 
later review.  It is also important that the students are able to discuss their 
understanding in their 'own language' with each other to build their 
understanding of what is being taught...and no this does not go against 
supporting the English program but in the end will support it.  If the kids are 
being taught a 'curriculum' we have to make the arrangements for them to be 
supported in that the best way.   The assessments need to be tailored to show 
understanding and not English ability.   The most difficult task for any ELL 
student is to speak and you might actually be surprised at how much is 
understood by the reading but the difficulty is in conveying the understanding. 
  Where possible I would supply the kids with taped
 books to listen to the language and read, just right reading level materials 
to work with fluency and there are a never ending supply of websites that could 
be used independently.  I would be strongly encouraging your administration to 
look at hiring teachers to work with these kids and for there to be an 
understanding set with parents about what the outcomes that can really be 
expected are.  Good luck!!


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 From: Michelle Parascandola <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013 3:10 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] ELL Asian High school students
 
I am a newly hired literacy teacher for a K-12 private school. While I've 
worked with reading remediation for grades K-8 and occasional work with 
American high schoolers, this school has had a large influx of Chinese and 
Korean students in grades 9-12. They are literate in their own languages but 
their English (spoken) is pretty choppy and their reading levels in English 
seem pretty low. How can I best support them in the high school English 
classroom when there are no ESL supports and a strict curriculum to adhere to? 
Is it realistic to expect them to perform well on SAT's after only 2 or so 
years here? 
Thanks in advance for your support!



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We use DIBELS 6th edition to progress monitor. It has worked well for us, 
kindergarten through 5th grade.  The Online tool is very nice because it will 
help you see if what you are doing is actually working. For example, if the 
data 
begins to flat line, the online progress monitoring graph marks it with a 
yellow 
dot.  And if it flat lines too long, the dot will turn red and suggest that a 
change be made. These added measures help teachers determine if they should 
increase time, switch the focus to a different skill, dig deeper with other 
diagnostic measures...etc.  Again, as a progress monitoring tool, it has been a 
helpful tool, especially when used in conjunction with other data.  Again, 
DIBELS doesn't tell you what to do, but it will help you recognize if what you 
are doing is working or not.


As an aside, we were going to move to DIBELS Next, but there has been quite a 
bit of controversy stirring out there regarding the test and the newly altered 
cut scores.  As a result, we have decided not to make a switch right now.  I 
highly recommend watching the Webinar from the DIBELS University of Oregon 
Center for Teaching and Learning.  
https://dibels.uoregon.edu/news/#122012_webinar_announcement.  
It's fairly short, and very informative on the DIBELS Next issues.  

DIBELS 6th Edition and DIBELS Next are not the same thing.  6th edition was 
created by a non-profit. It has lots of research and reliability behind it, 
though I'm sure other great or even better Universal Screens exist--6th edition 
has worked well for us.  DIBELS Next was created by Dynamic Measurement Group, 
a 
for profit company.  6th and  Next are two entirely different tests--not to be 
lumped together under one umbrella.  

Ok, hope this helps.  Good luck to you.

Amy McGovern
Reading Specialist 
Wausau, WI


> From: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:54:03 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] DIBELS online
> 
> We've used it for a few years now first on palm pilots and now on net books.  
I think it is pretty easy to use but like I said I've used it for a while.  My 
problem is not using the online stuff.  It's by the time they get to third 
grade 
(which is what I teach) fluency to them is only reading fast. So I REALLY focus 
on all the components of fluency.  We do DIBELS K-3 and some in fourth.
> A few years ago when you got online the site told you how long it had been 
between progress monitorings, now it takes a bit more doing to find it.... just 
a minor annoyance but when every minute counts in the classroom it's a pain!
> 
> Hope this helps!!  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 27, 2013, at 7:38 AM, twinklesweetstarz <[email protected]> 
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> > I could use some help. Has anyone used DIBELS progress monitoring--the
> > online component? Our school just purchased it but I have not had a chance
> > to log in yet. Can anyone tell me what they think about it? Any pros/cons?
> > Is it easy for our teachers to use to progress monitor?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Tina :)
> > www.mommycomplex.blogspot.com
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