Hiya john

The 3rd & 4th columns of the phrase table contain alignment information
about the words in the phrase. How it is created changed recently.

However, this information isn't used by the decoder in the main trunk so
shouldn't affect performance.

If the performance of the decoder is lower for the same weights, I will be
very concerned. Can you tell me if this is the case?

If so, would it be possible to send me a copy of the model for me to debug?
Which older version of Moses are you comparing it against?

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of John D. Burger
Sent: 02 August 2008 06:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Moses-support] Trying to debug reduced performance with new Moses

Hi -

I'm trying to replicate an experiment done with an older version of Moses,
against the latest version.  Everything goes identically up to tuning, where
the newer version starts with a lower BLEU and runs  
only 8 as opposed to 19 iterations of MERT, resulting in a lower   
evaluation score.

Looking more closely at the data files, the phrase tables seem to be
slightly different.  All of the difference have to do with the third and
fourth columns of the phrase tables, as in this example:


< " ||| " . ||| (0,1) ||| (0) (0) ||| 0.000201491 0.0130605
0.00038117 0.000751688 2.718
---
 > " ||| " . ||| (0) ||| (0) () ||| 0.000201491 0.0130605 0.00038117
0.000751688 2.718

For most of the differences, the older phrase table has more indices, but
there are some where the reverse is true.  The weights are not different.

statmt.org seems to be down at the moment, so I'm not sure what those
columns represent.  These seem to be the =only= differences between the two
versions, in the main (huge) phrase table as well as all the filtered
versions.  Of course, the MERT code, etc., is presumably different, but I
thought I'd ask about this anyway.  Does it mean anything?

Thanks!

- John D. Burger
   MITRE


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