Hi Sanne. 

Those papers usually explain how the systems were built. Did you check that you 
are using the same corpora for training and tuning. What about preprocessing, 
like case sensitivity. 

I think I can help you with some of your questions:

> 2) does it affect the reordering model if I choose another ngram length 
> during training?

Nope. The language model information you placed on the training script is used 
at the end, when the moses.ini file is created. The information used in step 7 
(learning reordering model) is a file generated in step 5 (phrase extraction) 
named extract.o.gz. You may open it to see its content.

> 4) Wat do the 6 and the 5 mean in the reordering table line.

I'm not sure about the 5 but the 6 should mean the number of weights in your 
reordering model. Those are two for monotone, two for swap and two for 
discontinous phrase moves. You can open the reordering-table file to check it ;)

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Carlos A. HenrĂ­quez Q.
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----- Mensaje original ----
De: "Korzec, Sanne" <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: lun,1 marzo, 2010 11:48
Asunto: [Moses-support] lower BLEU score than normal

Hi all,

I am running some experiments where the BLEU score in my experiments is a 
little lower than from BLEU scores published in recent papers. I am trying to 
figure out why this is, but I am running out of ideas. Any help would be 
appreciated. I am making a list of possible points which might be relevant.

I am doing a FR -> EN translation on wmt 08 europarl v3b.

Koehn in 2003 reports a bleu score of 0.3389 with a language model of ngram 3
mylonakis in 2008 report a bleu score of 0.3303 with a language model of ngram 5

my model gets a bleu score of 0.3145 on a language model of ngram 4 and 0.3178 
on a LM of ngram 5.

I have a moses compilation of 8-5-2008 and doing the normal baseline 
instructions as found under baseline system wmt08.

Questions:
1) is it possible I have some faulty moses compilation. Should I redownload 
another version from svn?
2) does it affect the reordering model if I choose another ngram length during 
training?
3) my moses.ini prints:

============================
# limit on how many phrase translations e for each phrase f are loaded
# 0 = all elements loaded
[ttable-limit]
20
0
# distortion (reordering) files
[distortion-file]
0-0 msd-bidirectional-fe 6 /scratch/res_10/mosespl5pc1.0/model/reordering-table.
msd-bidirectional-fe.0.5.0-0.gz
===================================

3) why are there two lines under table-limit? should there be just one?
4) Wat do the 6 and the 5 mean in the reordering table line.

regards,
Sanne





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