hi Tom

I supposed there is a mismatch with the last working IRSTLM release  
and your.

Where did you get yours?

Nicola

On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:36 AM, <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> "Problem solved..." I spoke too early.
>
> Creating the symlink, $SRILM/bin/i686, enabled me to run MERT with  
> small
> (135K pair) test sets with a 5-gram irstlm whereas before they crashed
> immediately. However, it failed when I move to a training corpus  
> with 1.3
> million pairs. The moses-irstlm system ran for about 1 1/2 days and  
> only
> output 939 of 3842 phrases in the run1. During that time, it gradually
> consuming RAM and swap space. It finally failed with the following  
> fatal
> message:
>
>    [113615.909787] Out of Memory : kill process 299 (sh) score  
> 53126 or a
> child [113615.909826] Killed process 2100 (moses)
>
> I just finished successfully tuning the exact same phrase/reordering
> tables with an srilm model. The srilm model was built with the  
> exact same
> data as the irstlm model that fails. Attachments include:
>
> 1) irstlm.europarl.v5.mini.en-nl.tar.gz -- the successful srilm
> logs/configs
> 2) irstlm.europarl.v5.en-nl.tar.gz -- the failed irstlm logs/configs
> 3) srilm.europarl.v5.en-nl.tar.gz -- the successful srilm logs/configs
> using the same tables
>
> Linux 'top' reported that during mert with moses-srilm, the moses  
> instance
> consumed about 3.5 GB of RAM with practically zero swap file usage.  
> This
> held constant through each iteration. The irstlm version, however,
> gradually consumes all RAM and then it consumed the swap file before
> crashing.
>
> To review the builds:
> 1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3)
> 2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01)
> 3) SRILM (ver 1.5.10)
> 4) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010)
> 5) Ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS 64-bit
> 6) 2.6 Ghz Core2-Quad with 4GB RAM
>
> Have any others had similar problems? There's probably a simple  
> solution,
> but I haven't found it. I configured the .ini file for irstlm to  
> use the
> .mm memory-mapped binarized model. Can someone review the attached  
> log and
> moses.ini files?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:48:33 -0700,
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Problem solved.
>>
>> To review the symptoms, I ran the following two mert-moses-new.pl
> command
>> lines:
>>
>> CASE 1:
>> nice mert-moses-new.pl \
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/ 
>> mert.en
> \
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/ 
>> mert.nl
> \
>> /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/moses-cmd/src/moses \
>>
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/ 
> moses0.ini
> \
>> --working-dir
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl \
>> --rootdir /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/scripts \
>> --mertdir=/usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/mert \
>> --nbest=50 \
>> --decoder-flags -v 0
>>
>> CASE 2:
>> nice mert-moses-new.pl \
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/ 
>> mert.en
> \
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/ 
>> mert.nl
> \
>> /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/moses-cmd/src/moses \
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/ 
> moses0.ini
> \
>> --working-dir
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl \
>> --rootdir /usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/scripts \
>> --mertdir=/usr/local/lib/moses-irstlm/mert \
>> --nbest=50 \
>> --decoder-flags -v 0
>>
>>
>> Only one line (the lmodel-file) was different in the respective  
>> starting
>> config files:
>>
>> CASE 1:
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.3.en-nl/ 
> moses0.ini:
>> [ttable-file]
>> 0 0 0 5
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase- 
>> table.gz
>> [lmodel-file]
>> 1 0 3 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/3-gram.nl.blm.mm
>> [distortion-file]
>> 0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering- 
> table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz
>>
>> CASE 2:
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/mert.irstlm.5.en-nl/ 
> moses0.ini:
>> [ttable-file]
>> 0 0 0 5
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase- 
>> table.gz
>> [lmodel-file]
>> 1 0 5 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/5-gram.nl.blm.mm
>> [distortion-file]
>> 0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering- 
> table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz
>>
>>
>> In both cases, mert-moses-new.pl filtered the phrase table  
>> successfully.
>> In CASE 1, the tuning process continued and concluded with a final
>> moses.ini file with new weights. In CASE 2, however, mert-moses- 
>> new.pl
>> created run1.moses.ini. The moses process rapidly (less than 5  
>> minutes)
>> consumed all RAM and virtual memory leaving nothing for other  
>> processes.
> It
>> never sent output to the run1.out file. The system killed moses and
>> mert-moses-new.pl. This occurred from the mert-moses-new.pl script or
> from
>> the command line using the run1.moses.ini file.
>>
>> Furthermore, I changed run1.moses.ini to use the binarized phrase and
>> reordering tables:
>> 0 0 0 5
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase- 
>> table.gz
>>   changed to:
>> 1 0 0 5
>> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/phrase-table
>>
>> 0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering- 
> table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe.gz
>>   changed to
>> 0-0 wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe-allff 6
>>
> /media/models/tables/europarl.v5.mini/en-nl/model.en-nl/reordering- 
> table.wbe-msd-bidirectional-fe
>>
>> With this modified config from the command line (not mert-moses- 
>> new.pl),
>> moses loaded in seconds and translated stdin/stdout just fine. Only
>> configurations with the full .gz model and filtered model  
>> exhibited the
>> problems. The filtered model, by the way, is only 20 MB for phrase  
>> AND
>> reordering tables.
>>
>>
>> SOLUTION:
>> When I first built IRSTLM with MACHTYPE=x86_64, it created
>> $IRSTLM/bin/x86_64. Then, building moses using --with-irstlm=$IRSTLM
>> finished without fatal errors. I recently read the moses-support  
>> threads
>> about using a $SRILM/bin/i686 folder. So, I applied the same  
>> solution to
>> IRSTLM. I rebuilt IRSTLM and I created two symlinks:
>>    ln -s $IRSTLM/bin/x86_64 $IRSTLM/bin/i686
>>    ln -s $IRSTLM/lib/x86_64 $IRSTLM/lib/i686
>>
>> Then, I rebuild moses --with-irstlm=$IRSTLM.
>>
>> RESULTS: the mert-moses-new.pl script runs flawlessly with 3-gram and
>> 5-gram IRSTLM language models and the exact same config files in  
>> CASE 1
> and
>> CASE 2 above.
>>
>> Go figure!
>>
>> Hope this helps others.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 04:31:50 -0700,
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks. I found a possible problem with the way I built Moses with
>> IRSTLM.
>>> So, I started from scratch and I'm rebuilding phrase tables and
> language
>>> models. Should be ready for further testing tomorrow. I'll pass my
>> results
>>> when it's done. Stand by...
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:40:35 +0100, Barry Haddow  
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Tom
>>>>
>>>> I think 4G ram should be enough for the model you describe, so I  
>>>> don't
>>>> know
>>>> why moses is getting killled. How much memory does it use? Is moses
>>> using
>>>> the
>>>> binarised models? Note that there needs to be a 1 at the start  
>>>> of the
>>>> ttable
>>>> specification for this to happen. eg
>>>> [ttable-file]
>>>> 1 0 0 5 /afs/inf.ed.ac.uk/group/bhaddow/models/fr-en-nc/phrase- 
>>>> table.1
>>>>
>>>> If you run with '-v 1' then you should be able to see which  
>>>> table is
>>> being
>>>> loaded when the memory exhaustion occurred.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Barry
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday 29 May 2010 19:23,  
>>>> [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm troubleshooting a new moses system with these components:
>>>>>   1) GIZA++ (SVN rev 8, v 1.0.3)
>>>>>   2) IRSTLM (SVN rev 38, v 5.40.01)
>>>>>   3) Moses (SVN rev 3210, dated 4-26-2010)
>>>>>   4) Ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS 64-bit.
>>>>>   5) 3.4 Ghz Pentium-D with 4gb ram.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using a 3-gram lm, the system works as expected. Training,  
>>>>> tuning and
>>>>> evaluation a small (135K pairs) en-nl subset of europarl.v5 work
> fine.
>>>>> BLEU
>>>>> score was 23.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then built a 5-gram model, edited the moses.ini config and  
>>>>> started
>>>>> mert-moses-new. It creates a filtered model, and then launches  
>>>>> moses.
>>> The
>>>>> memory usage grows and within 10 minutes, the system kills moses.
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases, the lm is only the target half of the bitext  
>>>>> corpus,
>>> about
>>>>> 135K lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> The moses.ini files:
>>>>>
>>>>> [lmodel-file]
>>>>> 1 0 3 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/3-gram.nl.blm
>>>>>
>>>>> [lmodel-file]
>>>>> 1 0 5 /media/models/irstlm/europarl.v5.mini/5-gram.nl.blm
>>>>>
>>>>> I know of one other who has anyone the same problem with the  
>>>>> 4-1-2010
>>>>> moses build and irstlm from March/April last year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions? Could it be the new Ubuntu or the g++-4.4.1
> compiler?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tom
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