Hi Tom and Suzy,

Thanks a lot for your answers and tips.
I checked the preprocessing, the tuning set and training set are consistent, 
both truecased and tokenized.
The training data contains more than 40 million tokens, and the genre  looks 
fine, because the translation output is reasonable without tuning..

Best,
Jia



--- Tom Hoar <[email protected]> schrieb am Mo, 21.2.2011:

> Von: Tom Hoar <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [Moses-support] does mert usually enhance BLEU on a test set?
> An: [email protected]
> CC: "Jia Xu" <[email protected]>, "Suzy Howlett" <[email protected]>
> Datum: Montag, 21. Februar, 2011 05:37 Uhr
> Jia,
> 
> Yes, mert's purpose is to optimize the configuration
> weights such that BLEU scores increase.
> 
> I had a similar case where mert didn't change the BLEU
> scores. Our troubleshooting found the tuning set wasn't
> prepared the same as the training data... i.e. we forgot to
> lower-case and tokenize the tuning set. This is probably a
> good place for you to start.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:35:41 +1100, Suzy Howlett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Jia,
> > 
> > It could very well be that the training data isn't
> very good. Tuning
> > changes how much each feature is weighted, but if the
> estimates of the
> > feature values aren't reasonable in the first place, I
> can't imagine it
> > helps too much. Perhaps you're not using enough
> training data, or the
> > training data is just too different from your test
> data (e.g. genre)?
> > Someone with more experience than me may be able to
> give you more advice.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Suzy
> > 
> > On 21/02/11 2:46 AM, Jia Xu wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> In my experiments, tuning with mert-moses.pl or
> mert-moses-new.pl on a development set did not improve the
> translation quality on a test set, about half percent worse
> in the BLEU score (no tuning vs. tuning). Does anyone have a
> similar experience or did I call anything wrong?
> >> 
> >> nbest=100
> >> dev: wmt-test08
> >> test: wmt-test10
> >> with/without tuning is achieved by turning off/on
> weight-config in the config file.
> >> 
> >> Thank you!
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Jia
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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