Hello!
Thank you for the fast reply. Yes, I saw some links on GIZA++, but I
didn't find a solution or the hint what can cause this error.

My environment is:
#62 UBUNTU 2.6.32-32-generic-pae
Moses Built on Jan 28 2009
gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)
giza-pp-v1.0.2

However, I can run Moses successfully on the other data.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Thu Vuong Hoai <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I found your error in the issues page of Giza++, could you please check this
> link http://code.google.com/p/giza-pp/issues/detail?id=15, I've thought it's
> not enough good for you but I want to ask about issue 11, do you fix it? and
> could you plz, provide more information about your environment?
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:04 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>   1. Re: Using Moses language models (Barry Haddow)
>>   2. Re: Using Moses language models (Marc LEGENDRE)
>>   3. GIZA++: glibc detected (Angelina Ivanova)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:14:47 +0100
>> From: Barry Haddow <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Using Moses language models
>> To: [email protected], [email protected]
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>> On Friday 22 July 2011 03:50, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>> > true, & there's no right answer to it.
>> >
>> > I suppose 1 goal of the trunk is to make sure that the core
>> > functionality
>> > of translating isn't affected too much, in terms of quality, speed, or
>> > memory. ANother goal is to make not to overburden the API with things
>> > no-one else uses or implement.
>> >
>> > therefore, i think a good strategy is to branch & do what you like
>> >
>>
>> Hi Hieu
>>
>> I'm not sure I see the point of implementing this in a branch and never
>> merging. That's not a branch, it's a fork. The point of doing a small
>> change
>> like this in a branch would be so that the LM interface experts (ie you
>> and
>> Ken and ...) could have a look at it before it gets merged in.
>>
>> As regards how to implement the interface changes, what would be the
>> consequences of having other LM implementations throw an exception or an
>> assert for ngram_length? I think returning -1 is a very bad idea,
>> especially
>> as the return value is probably a size_t, and returning 0 could also lead
>> to
>> subtle and confusing behaviour. However if there is a return value with
>> the
>> semantics of "don't know" then that would be the ideal solution.
>>
>> cheers - Barry
>>
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>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:21:44 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: Marc LEGENDRE <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Using Moses language models
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
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>>
>> Well, we (me and the people I work with) were hoping not to have to
>> maintain
>> a modified version of Moses.
>>
>> Luckily, obviousness just hit me like a truck : if something is specific
>> to a LM,
>> it does not have to be in the top layer.
>> Having a common interface does not prevent subclasses from having a
>> specific behaviour,
>> we could have a LanguageModelKen method, say GetValueForgotStateKen(...)
>> which would return
>> something specific, say a LMKenResult, which would contain a LMResult plus
>> others things
>> like, say, a ngram_length field :-).
>> And the virtual GetValueForgotState() method would simply return the
>> LMResult from there.
>>
>> This way, no need to break the high level API,
>> and no extra maintenance cost for us (me and the peop... Well, you know).
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> > De: "Hieu Hoang" <[email protected]>
>> > ?: "Kenneth Heafield" <[email protected]>
>> > Cc: [email protected]
>> > Envoy?: Vendredi 22 Juillet 2011 04:50:14
>> > Objet: Re: [Moses-support] Using Moses language models
>> >
>> >
>> > true, & there's no right answer to it.
>> >
>> > I suppose 1 goal of the trunk is to make sure that the core
>> > functionality of translating isn't affected too much, in terms of
>> > quality, speed, or memory. ANother goal is to make not to overburden
>> > the API with things no-one else uses or implement.
>> >
>> > therefore, i think a good strategy is to branch & do what you like
>> >
>> >
>> > On 21 July 2011 22:46, Kenneth Heafield < [email protected] >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Marc makes a good point. When one language model provides more
>> > information than do other language models, it's difficult to maintain
>> > a
>> > common abstraction layer. Currently we're looking at n-gram length.
>> > SRILM doesn't provide access to that (but you can get right-looking
>> > state length which is usually the same thing).
>> >
>> > I'm working on making this issue more severe with left-looking state
>> > optimization and explicit hypothesis bounds. How do we change the
>> > decoder to use these features if not all of the language models
>> > support
>> > them?
>> >
>> > Maybe another class in the language model hierarchy supporting these
>> > additional features. But it's going to make the decoder look ugly if
>> > you want to support both.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 07/21/11 11:14, Hieu Hoang wrote:
>> > > hi marc,
>> > >
>> > > it'll be good for people to see your changes.
>> > >
>> > > i suppose you should create a branch and make your changes in
>> > > there.
>> > >
>> > > If there are other people interested, you can point them to your
>> > > branch.
>> > > If more people are interested and it doesn't affect other people
>> > > too
>> > > much, then we can move it to trunk.
>> > >
>> > > i'll email you offline with svn details
>> > >
>> > > On 21/07/2011 15:16, Marc LEGENDRE wrote:
>> > >> Alright, I gave this a try, and it did it for me.
>> > >> With kenlm, it is a ridiculously straightforward modification,
>> > >> but now I'm not sure how I can submit it :
>> > >> on one hand, I am not a "machine tranlation guy" and I don't
>> > >> imagine myself
>> > >> digging in every other LM to find how to set the ngram_length
>> > >> value;
>> > >> and on the other hand I would feel guilty to submit a 10-line
>> > >> patch and say
>> > >> "Guys, I need this, would you mind committing it and doing
>> > >> yourselves the
>> > >> necessary modifications in every other wrapper ?"
>> > >>
>> > >> How do you, Moses developers, feel about this ?
>> > >> Is it acceptable / outrageously stupid if I set the value to -1 in
>> > >> the other wrappers,
>> > >> maybe with a TODO, and properly document it in the super class ?
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Mail original -----
>> > >>> De: "Kenneth Heafield"< [email protected] >
>> > >>> ?: [email protected]
>> > >>> Envoy?: Mercredi 13 Juillet 2011 20:53:46
>> > >>> Objet: Re: [Moses-support] Using Moses language models
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I'd suggest adding a ngram_length member to LMResult then
>> > >>> modifying
>> > >>> each
>> > >>> model's wrapper (or just mine) to set that value.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> You're welcome to move stuff from LanguageModelKen.cpp to
>> > >>> LanguageModelKen.h as necessary. I chose this setup to minimize
>> > >>> unnecessary includes.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kenneth
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 07/13/11 14:33, Marc LEGENDRE wrote:
>> > >>>> Well, not only the header is not "public", so to speak, (which I
>> > >>>> agree is not a major obstacle)
>> > >>>> but also the desired pointer is a private member of the class,
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> sadly lacks a getter.
>> > >>>> As far as I know, it means that accessing it will involve
>> > >>>> questionnable C++ tricks.
>> > >>>> (never tried, though)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> If modifying Moses is not too much of a chore, I'll give it a
>> > >>>> thought.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Anyway, thank you for your answers.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ----- Mail original -----
>> > >>>>> De: "Hieu Hoang"< [email protected] >
>> > >>>>> ?: [email protected]
>> > >>>>> Envoy?: Mercredi 13 Juillet 2011 18:40:11
>> > >>>>> Objet: Re: [Moses-support] Using Moses language models
>> > >>>>> i guess lm::Model is specific to the ken lm implementation. If
>> > >>>>> you
>> > >>>>> want
>> > >>>>> use it you should include the header yourself and cast whatever
>> > >>>>> you
>> > >>>>> need
>> > >>>>> to get the pointer.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> if you're feeling generous, maybe you can extend the moses LM
>> > >>>>> wrapper
>> > >>>>> so
>> > >>>>> that all LM implementations have the opportunity to return the
>> > >>>>> length
>> > >>>>> n-gram match.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> On 13/07/2011 21:51, Marc LEGENDRE wrote:
>> > >>>>>> The length of the n-gram match is sufficient for I want,
>> > >>>>>> indeed.
>> > >>>>>> I figured out how to do get it using directly kenlm, but as I
>> > >>>>>> am
>> > >>>>>> running the decoder, I wanted to use the already loaded LM.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> I first tried to dig my way through the Moses abstraction
>> > >>>>>> layers
>> > >>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>> retrieve a pointer to a lm::Model from kenlm, but the
>> > >>>>>> Moses::LanguageModelKen header is not part of the public
>> > >>>>>> headers
>> > >>>>>> of
>> > >>>>>> Moses ; that's why I tried to use only Moses interface.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> (I did I did not mention this alternative ; If someone knows
>> > >>>>>> how
>> > >>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>> get such a pointer, I can carry on from there)
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> ----- Mail original -----
>> > >>>>>>> De: "Kenneth Heafield"< [email protected] >
>> > >>>>>>> ?: "Marc LEGENDRE"< [email protected] >
>> > >>>>>>> Envoy?: Mercredi 13 Juillet 2011 16:12:27
>> > >>>>>>> Objet: Re: [Moses-support] Using Moses language models
>> > >>>>>>> The definition of unknown is that the word you asked for (the
>> > >>>>>>> rightmost
>> > >>>>>>> one) is mapped to<unk> i.e. an OOV.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Are you looking for:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> 1) Length of n-gram matched in the model
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> or
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> 2) Length of state you must keep for valid continuation to
>> > >>>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>> right
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> These are slightly different things due to state
>> > >>>>>>> minimization.
>> > >>>>>>> The
>> > >>>>>>> moses abstraction layer does not return either in a general
>> > >>>>>>> way.
>> > >>>>>>> However, if you're using KenLM, #2 is in the returned state's
>> > >>>>>>> valid_length_. Further, #1 is in
>> > >>>>>>> FullScoreReturn.ngram_length.
>> > >>>>>>> So
>> > >>>>>>> if
>> > >>>>>>> you call KenLM directly these are easy to obtain (and you can
>> > >>>>>>> decide
>> > >>>>>>> whether to expose them through the Moses abstraction layer).
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Outside the decoder, you can run
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> kenlm/query model_file null
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> then provide your trigrams on stdin.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Here's an example with kenlm/query kenlm/lm/test.arpa null
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> looking on a
>> > >>>>>>> looking=23 1 -1.28594 on=25 2 -0.46389 a=5 3 -0.0483513
>> > >>>>>>> Total: -1.79818 OOV: 0
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> The format is "word=vocab_id ngram_length score". So this is
>> > >>>>>>> a
>> > >>>>>>> trigram
>> > >>>>>>> in the model because "a=5 3" appears.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On 07/13/11 08:50, Marc LEGENDRE wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> Hello,
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I am trying to use the language models loaded by Moses ;
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I am using a 3-gram LM, and I need to know whether it
>> > >>>>>>>> contains
>> > >>>>>>>> a
>> > >>>>>>>> given N-gram or not.
>> > >>>>>>>> I tried to play around with
>> > >>>>>>>> LanguageModelImplementation::GetValueForgotState(...),
>> > >>>>>>>> but the boolean 'unknown' in the returned structure does not
>> > >>>>>>>> seem
>> > >>>>>>>> to
>> > >>>>>>>> be what I'm looking for.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Is there any simple way of getting this piece of information
>> > >>>>>>>> ?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>>>> Marc Legendre
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 16:38:53 +0200
>> From: Angelina Ivanova <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Moses-support] GIZA++: glibc detected
>> To: [email protected]
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>> Hello,
>> I got the error below when I tried to align Russian to English. I
>> searched the error in the Internet and found out that the cause of the
>> problem could be in having a null sentence in the corpus. However, I
>> didn't detect any null sentences in my corpus. The encoding is UTF8
>> and all previous experiments with the corpus that contained the one
>> from this as a subset, went smoothly. Could you please help me?
>>
>> *** glibc detected ***/moses/tools/bin/GIZA++: double free or
>> corruption (out): 0x14901578 ***
>> ======= Backtrace: =========
>> [0x8166e81]
>> [0x8168946]
>> [0x813ebb1]
>> [0x80e6fe9]
>> [0x80d8420]
>> [0x80da791]
>> [0x806f55a]
>> [0x80742e8]
>> [0x814d9bb]
>> [0x8048151]
>> ======= Memory map: ========
>> 00d4e000-00d4f000 r-xp 00000000 00:00 0          [vdso]
>> 08048000-081f6000 r-xp 00000000 00:1e 1612751353  /moses/tools/bin/GIZA++
>> 081f6000-081f8000 rw-p 001ae000 00:1e 1612751353  /moses/tools/bin/GIZA++
>> 081f8000-081ff000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> 082ce000-1580d000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0          [heap]
>> b5f00000-b5f23000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> b5f23000-b6000000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0
>> b6093000-b6106000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> b6179000-b7099000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> b70dd000-b7525000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> b7561000-b76a7000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> b76c0000-b7779000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
>> bfb6a000-bfb7f000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0          [stack]
>> Exit code: 1
>>
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