agreed, we were having an offlist moan about the same thing. The separation
between decoding & training, and release date-stamp thingy is historical and
quite silly.

The directories & release procedure has to be rationalised.

Someone will do it eventually...

On 23 September 2011 14:04, Joerg Tiedemann <[email protected]>wrote:

> By the way, what is the use of a date-stamped directory anyway?
> I find if rather disturbing that all the binaries and scripts are
> distributed all over the place.
> moses-cmd/src
> moses-chart-cmd/src
> misc
> scripts
> released scripts in a date-stamped directory of your choice
> ...
>
> Jörg
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Barry Haddow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Hieu et al
> >
> > I replied to the OP on this, but forgot to CC it to the list.
> >
> > There was a change in mert some time in the summer (from Prague) meaning
> that
> > if you run an old mert-moses.perl with a new mert binary, you get an
> error
> > with exit code 3. I suspect this is the problem here since the
> scripts-rootdir
> > suggests the scripts are from March. Checking mert.log would confirm the
> > diagnosis.
> >
> > The solution is to rerun 'make release' in the scripts directory, and use
> the
> > new scripts-rootdir.
> >
> > As an aside, I should say that I'm not keen on our two-level make setup,
> and
> > would like to find something simpler. Probably a one level make, with a
> > conventional 'make install', but with the default being to install in a
> date
> > stamped directory.
> >
> > cheers - Barry
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 14:59:26 Hieu Hoang wrote:
> >> i'm afraid i don't know what the problem is. The n-best-list and ini
> >> files look ok. I'm running mert and moses-chart that was checked out on
> >> the 13th September and ran ok.
> >>
> >> i'm not familiar with the mert code so i can't tell you if the changes
> >> you made are good. However, you're welcome to post the changes to the
> >> mailing list and someone might be know better than i do.
> >>
> >> On 22/09/2011 15:34, Prasanth K wrote:
> >> > Hi Hieu,
> >> >
> >> > I am attaching the following files:
> >> >
> >> > multi-threads_tune-run1.100best.out - first 1000 lines from the
> >> > multi-threaded decoder
> >> > single-threads_tune-run1.100best.out - the same from the
> >> > single-threaded decoder
> >> >
> >> > multi-threads_tune-run1.moses.ini - the ini file used at the beginning
> >> > of the tuning when using threads
> >> > single-threads_tune-run1.moses.ini - the ini file used at the
> >> > beginning of the tuning when threads were not used
> >> > single-threads_tune-run2.moses.ini - the ini file used at the
> >> > beginning of the second iteration when threads were not used
> >> >
> >> > - Prasanth
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]
> >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     can you send me your ini file, and a few lines of the n-best list.
> >> >     For accuracy, send them as attachements, not cut & paste into the
> >> >     email.
> >> >
> >> >     I'll try & see what the problem is
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     On 22 September 2011 14:57, Prasanth K <[email protected]
> >> >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >         Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >         I am facing the same error that Cyrine Nasri mentioned in this
> >> >         thread.
> >> >
> >> >         I will try and give more information that what has already
> >> >         been mentioned.
> >> >         1.  I was using a single-threaded version of moses until
> >> >         earlier and was having no problem with the experiments using
> EMS.
> >> >         2.  I recently shifted to a multi-threaded version, and tried
> >> >         the same experiment again with EMS.
> >> >         This time, the tuning process crashes after a single iteration
> >> >         with exactly the same error as mentioned below.
> >> >         3.  I have used 10 threads for decoding in the tuning process,
> >> >         and am using a server with 32Gb ram for running the
> >> >         experiments. (Might not be related, but just thought I should
> >> >         mention!)
> >> >
> >> >         I am not sure if Cyrine's problem was with the multi-threaded
> >> >         version as well, but could some one point out as to what might
> >> >         be wrong in this picture ?
> >> >
> >> >         - Prasanth
> >> >
> >> >         On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Cyrine NASRI
> >> >         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >             Hello,
> >> >             I 'm trying to launch the mert using this command:
> >> >
> >> >             ./mert-moses-new.pl <http://mert-moses-new.pl>
> >> >             /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/corpus/source2TOK
> >> >             /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/corpus/ref2TOK
> >> >             /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/moses-cmd/src/moses
> >> >
> >> >
> /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses-scripts/scripts-20110727-1543/train
> >> >ing/moses.ini --working-dir /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/tuning/
> >> > --mertdir /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/mert
> >> >
> >> >             But there is only one iteration, after it stops and
> itshow:
> >> >
> >> >             Peeking at the beginning of nbestlist to get order of
> >> >             scores: run1.best100.out
> >> >             The decoder returns the scores in this order: d lm w tm tm
> tm
> >> >             Executing: gzip -f run1.best100.out
> >> >             Scoring the nbestlist.
> >> >             Executing:
> >> >             /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/mert/extractor
> >> >             --scconfig case:true --scfile run1.scores.dat --ffile
> >> >             run1.features.dat -r
> >> >             /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/corpus/ref2TOK -n
> >> >             run1.best100.out.gz > extract.out 2> extract.err
> >> >             Executing: \cp -f init.opt run1.init.opt
> >> >             Executing: /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/mert/mert
> >> >             -d 6  --scconfig case:true -n 20 --ffile run1.features.dat
> >> >             --scfile run1.scores.dat --ifile run1.init.opt 2> mert.log
> >> >             Exit code: 3
> >> >             Failed to run mert at ./mert-moses-new.pl
> >> >             <http://mert-moses-new.pl> line 752.
> >> >              and in the mert log :
> >> >
> >> >             Seeding random numbers with system clock
> >> >
> >> >             :Too few minimum weights.
> >> >
> >> >             error could not initialize start point with
> >> >
> >> >             I have not idea how i resolve this problem.
> >> >             Any idea please?
> >> >
> >> >             Thank you
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>
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