Hi guys,
 
you can use a small script to extract the latest "global" revision number; for
SVN, use svn info:
 
 
svn info | grep "Revision:"
Revision: 841
 $ svn info | grep "Revision:" Revision: 841
For git, you can use the following:

$ git rev-parse --short HEAD
97d20f5

Cheers,
   Christian


 

Lane Schwartz <[email protected]> hat am 29. September 2011 um 16:14
geschrieben:

 > Christian,
 >
 > You're correct, using the $Revision$ tag is the comment way to handle
 > this in svn.
 >
 > The problem is that this will embed the latest version number where
 > that particular file changed.
 >
 > What we want here is the latest revision where any file changed.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Lane
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Christian Hardmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
 > > I believe a common way to achieve this in svn is to put a $Revision$ tag
 > > somewhere in the file and set the keywords property on the file so svn
 > > modifies the tag appropriately:
 > > http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.advanced.props.special.keywords.html
 > >
 > > Git doesn't seem to do that. This page has a discussion about embedding
 > > revision IDs in Latex documents which should mutatis mutandis work for C++,
 > > too:
 > > http://thorehusfeldt.net/2011/05/13/including-git-revision-identifiers-in-latex/
 > >
 > > I've never tried this, though.
 > >
 > > /Christian
 > >
 > > On 29.09.2011, at 15:55, Lane Schwartz wrote:
 > >
 > >> This info is available for svn by calling svnversion. One way to embed
 > >> this would be as follows:
 > >>
 > >> In the Makefile, add a line like this:
 > >>
 > >> export SVN_VERSION:=$(shell svnversion)
 > >>
 > >> That will set an environment variable with the svn version number. You
 > >> should be able to then use this in some sort of ifdef or macro to get
 > >> it embedded into the appropriate binary.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> You can get similar info from git by using the following:
 > >>
 > >> git show-branch --sha1-name
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Cheers,
 > >> Lane
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Lane Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:
 > >>> I know there's a way to put in the svn revision number. Not sure about
 > >>> git.
 > >>>
 > >>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:
 > >>>> it seems like squishing everything into a bin directory is a good idea
 > >>>> for people who want to set their PATH variable to it.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> it would be useful to do
 > >>>>    moses --version
 > >>>>    train-model.perl --version
 > >>>> and see when or which svn/git version it was built on. Didn't think it
 > >>>> was possible but you might know better
 > >>>>
 > >>>> On 28/09/2011 16:55, Barry Haddow wrote:
 > >>>>> Hi
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> So it looks like a date-stamped release folder is not popular. It would
 > >>>>> be
 > >>>>> possible to have a version stamp inserted into the binaries and scripts
 > >>>>> and
 > >>>>> have this read by ems - would this be useful?
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> And would a 'make install' be of any use? It would mean that anyone who
 > >>>>> wanted
 > >>>>> a date-stamped release could make one with --prefix, and would help
 > >>>>> users to
 > >>>>> separate files needed at runtime from those needed at build time.
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> If we do have a 'make install', should the scripts be squished into the
 > >>>>> bin
 > >>>>> directory, or have their directory structure preserved? If we go for
 > >>>>> the
 > >>>>> latter, then there would be the option of running them from a source
 > >>>>> directory
 > >>>>> too.
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> cheers - Barry
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> On Tuesday 27 September 2011 23:53:29 Raphael Payen wrote:
 > >>>>>> I like your idea of a VERSION.txt file. Maybe containing also the
 > >>>>>> configure line.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> By the way, there is already a make install which is configurable with
 > >>>>>> "configure --prefix=..." ; I dont understand if you want more than
 > >>>>>> this.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Raphael
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> 2011/9/27 Lane Schwartz<[email protected]>:
 > >>>>>>> I would like to see a true make install option. I don't care what the
 > >>>>>>> default location is, as long as it's configurable.
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> At the least, I would prefer to see the binaries (and preferably
 > >>>>>>> scripts, too) installed to a bin directory within the moses dir
 > >>>>>>> instead of being spread throughout the source directories.
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> I agree that it can be useful to know what version you're running on.
 > >>>>>>> But I don't think time stamped directories are the way to do it. I
 > >>>>>>> would propose that make install creates a VERSION.txt file that lists
 > >>>>>>> the svn version number, or some other version number.
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Lane
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Hieu Hoang<[email protected]>
 > >>>>>>>  wrote:
 > >>>>>>>> I'd go with Ondrej and avoid any release procedure and run
 > >>>>>>>> everything
 > >>>>>>>> in-situ. We can debug and commit scripts easier.
 > >>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>> Or have a very simple release that moves all executables and scripts
 > >>>>>>>> into a bin directory. If the user wants to move/rename, it's their
 > >>>>>>>> choice
 > >>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>> On 27 September 2011 16:30, Barry Haddow<[email protected]>
 > >>>>>>>>  wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>> Hi
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>> I think it's useful to have a date-stamped release directory, so
 > >>>>>>>>> that
 > >>>>>>>>> you can
 > >>>>>>>>> work on the code and have experiments running, but keep tracking of
 > >>>>>>>>> which version was used in which experiment. Many people at
 > >>>>>>>>> Edinburgh
 > >>>>>>>>> make a copy of
 > >>>>>>>>> the moses binary with the svn version number as suffix on the name.
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>> How about having a 'make install, which by default installs to a
 > >>>>>>>>> date-stamped
 > >>>>>>>>> directory, with the standard bin, lib etc. pattern, with all the
 > >>>>>>>>> scripts under
 > >>>>>>>>> bin? How big a change would that be?
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>> cheers - Barry
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>> On Friday 23 September 2011 08:46:06 Ondrej Bojar wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> mert-moses-new.pl is outdated, isn't it? There should be only
 > >>>>>>>>>> mert-moses.pl these days.
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> The 'scripts releasing' is of mine and dates back to JHU workshop
 > >>>>>>>>>> in
 > >>>>>>>>>> 2006. Back then, we were hacking the scripts and running
 > >>>>>>>>>> experiments
 > >>>>>>>>>> at the same time, so we needed some track of what version of
 > >>>>>>>>>> scripts
 > >>>>>>>>>> was used for that particular failing experiment.
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> As soon as anyone has some spare time I'd suggest:
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> - delete the 'releasing' code in the Makefile
 > >>>>>>>>>> - make sure the main make compiles everything: all moseses, all
 > >>>>>>>>>> auxiliary binaries in scripts etc.
 > >>>>>>>>>> - I'd avoid implementing 'make install', because all the tools in
 > >>>>>>>>>> scripts know where their frieds are sitting in terms of relative
 > >>>>>>>>>> paths. The install would need to preserve the complicated
 > >>>>>>>>>> structure
 > >>>>>>>>>> anyway so there's not much point in having the install as 'cp -r'
 > >>>>>>>>>> does the same job.
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, O.
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> On 09/23/2011 09:20 AM, Hieu Hoang wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>> agreed, we were having an offlist moan about the same thing. The
 > >>>>>>>>>>> separation between decoding&   training, and release date-stamp
 > >>>>>>>>>>> thingy is
 > >>>>>>>>>>> historical and quite silly.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>> The directories&   release procedure has to be rationalised.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>> Someone will do it eventually...
 > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>> On 23 September 2011 14:04, Joerg
 > >>>>>>>>> Tiedemann<[email protected]>wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> By the way, what is the use of a date-stamped directory anyway?
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> I find if rather disturbing that all the binaries and scripts
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> are
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> distributed all over the place.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> moses-cmd/src
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> moses-chart-cmd/src
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> misc
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> released scripts in a date-stamped directory of your choice
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> ...
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> J�rg
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Barry Haddow
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>   wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hieu et al
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I replied to the OP on this, but forgot to CC it to the list.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There was a change in mert some time in the summer (from
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Prague)
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> meaning
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> that
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if you run an old mert-moses.perl with a new mert binary, you
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> error
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with exit code 3. I suspect this is the problem here since the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> scripts-rootdir
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggests the scripts are from March. Checking mert.log would
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm the diagnosis.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The solution is to rerun 'make release' in the scripts
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> directory,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> new scripts-rootdir.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, I should say that I'm not keen on our two-level
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> make
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> setup,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to find something simpler. Probably a one level
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> make,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> conventional 'make install', but with the default being to
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> install in a
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> date
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stamped directory.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers - Barry
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 14:59:26 Hieu Hoang wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm afraid i don't know what the problem is. The n-best-list
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ini
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> files look ok. I'm running mert and moses-chart that was
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 13th September and ran ok.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm not familiar with the mert code so i can't tell you if the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you made are good. However, you're welcome to post the changes
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list and someone might be know better than i do.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2011 15:34, Prasanth K wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hieu,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am attaching the following files:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-threads_tune-run1.100best.out - first 1000 lines from
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-threaded decoder
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single-threads_tune-run1.100best.out - the same from the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single-threaded decoder
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-threads_tune-run1.moses.ini - the ini file used at the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of the tuning when using threads
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single-threads_tune-run1.moses.ini - the ini file used at the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of the tuning when threads were not used
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single-threads_tune-run2.moses.ini - the ini file used at the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of the second iteration when threads were not used
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Prasanth
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Hieu
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hoang<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>  
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       can you send me your ini file, and a few lines of the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-best list. For accuracy, send them as attachements, not
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut&
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   paste into
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the email.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       I'll try&   see what the problem is
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       On 22 September 2011 14:57, Prasanth
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> K<[email protected]
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       <mailto:[email protected]>>   wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Hi all,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           I am facing the same error that Cyrine Nasri
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this thread.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           I will try and give more information that what has
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           been mentioned.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           1.  I was using a single-threaded version of moses
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until earlier and was having no problem with the experiments
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> EMS.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           2.  I recently shifted to a multi-threaded version,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tried the same experiment again with EMS.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           This time, the tuning process crashes after a
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iteration with exactly the same error as mentioned below.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           3.  I have used 10 threads for decoding in the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuning
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process, and am using a server with 32Gb ram for running the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiments. (Might not be related, but just thought I should
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mention!)
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           I am not sure if Cyrine's problem was with the
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-threaded version as well, but could some one point out
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to what might be wrong in this picture ?
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           - Prasanth
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Cyrine NASRI
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Hello,
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               I 'm trying to launch the mert using this
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               ./mert-moses-new.pl<http://mert-moses-new.pl>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/corpus/source2TOK
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/corpus/ref2TOK
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/moses-cmd/src/moses
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses-scripts/scripts-20110727-154
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3/trai n
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ing/moses.ini --working-dir
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/tuning/
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --mertdir /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/mert
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               But there is only one iteration, after it stops
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> itshow:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Peeking at the beginning of nbestlist to get
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of scores: run1.best100.out
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               The decoder returns the scores in this order: d
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lm
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> w tm
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tm
 > >>>>>>>>>>>> tm
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Executing: gzip -f run1.best100.out
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Scoring the nbestlist.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Executing:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/mert/extractor
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --scconfig case:true --scfile run1.scores.dat --ffile
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run1.features.dat -r
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/corpus/ref2TOK
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -n
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               run1.best100.out.gz>   extract.out 2>  
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extract.err
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Executing: \cp -f init.opt run1.init.opt
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Executing:
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /users/parole/cnasri/moses_work/moses/mert/mert -d 6
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   --scconfig case:true -n 20 --ffile run1.features.dat
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --scfile
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run1.scores.dat --ifile run1.init.opt 2>   mert.log Exit
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code: 3
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Failed to run mert at ./mert-moses-new.pl
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <http://mert-moses-new.pl>   line 752.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                and in the mert log :
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Seeding random numbers with system clock
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               :Too few minimum weights.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               error could not initialize start point with
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               I have not idea how i resolve this problem.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Any idea please?
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Thank you
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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