The offline version seems to have multi-word phrases, but a bad LM, eg:
  source (vietnamese): xe hoi
  online & offline: car

  source: brown fish
  online: poisson brun
  offline: brun poissons

  source: do you have the time
  online: avez-vous le temps
  offline: *ne* vous avez le temp

  source: where is the nearest toilet please
  online: où est le plus proche toilettes s'il vous plaît
  offline: où est le plus proche *de* toilettes *veuillez*

Still, it's good people are finally focusing on small devices. Maybe you'll
get a call from Google...

On 29 March 2013 17:43, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Something very recent on the topic:
>
>
> http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57576627-285/use-google-translate-offline-by-downloading-language-packs/
>
> I am impressed, about 150 MB per language pack. The translation is soso,
> compared to the online version, but usable.
>
> W dniu 07.03.2013 08:35, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt pisze:
> > Memory usage is usually reported to be about the same (nearly nothing
> > for both phrase tables), but as Kenneth mentioned there is a hidden
> > usage for both phrase tables that manifests in the disk cache. In theory
> > if you run moses long enough with many many sentences the old phrase
> > table may eventually end up in memory completely (provided you have so
> > much memory). The same is true for the compact phrase table. But since
> > the compact phrase table is 6-7 times smaller it will use 6-7 times less
> > memory in an asymptotic scenario. So in theory, if the small phrase
> > tables fits in your RAM and old phrase table does not (which is quite
> > likely so), the compact one should be always much faster after some time
> > of continuous employment.
> >
> > Concerning your other question about the crash. You built the phrase
> > table on another system, right? So the problem is that in the trunk the
> > binary formats are not compatible between 32 and 64 bit systems.  I have
> > versions of the phrase table and the reordering model that are binary
> > compatible between 32 and 64 bit systems, but I haven't put this into
> > the trunk. It is only available in the WIPO branch which in turn is a
> > lot behind the current moses development. Frankly, right now I do not
> > have much time available to make that work in the main moses
> > distribution, but I can take a look. However I cannot promise anything.
> >
> > W dniu 07.03.2013 07:38, myounggun jang pisze:
> >> We use instruments tools in xcode. we check the allocation memory.
> >> I don't know disk cached is excluded.
> >> I translate new sentences while measuring.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kenneth Heafield <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>      How did you measure memory usage?  I'm guessing it excludes the
> disk
> >>      cache that the binary phrase table functionally depends on.  Also,
> >>      were
> >>      you translating new sentences while measuring or previously
> translated
> >>      sentences?
> >>
> >>      On 03/07/13 00:47, myounggun jang wrote:
> >>      > Thank you for your help.
> >>      > I tested compact table on iPhone.
> >>      > however memory usage, loading time and translation time is
> >>      similar with
> >>      > binary phrase table.
> >>      >
> >>      > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Marcin Junczys-Dowmunt
> >>      > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>      <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >>      >
> >>      >     Hi,
> >>      >     take a look at the charts in
> >>      > http://www.statmt.org/mtm12/pub/marcin-mtm2012.pdf
> >>      >
> >>      >     If you still have questions, drop me an e-mail.
> >>      >     Best,
> >>      >     Marcin
> >>      >
> >>      >     W dniu 06.03.2013 11:20, myounggun jang pisze:
> >>      >      > Hello
> >>      >      > I found that compact phrase table is 6 to 7 times smaller
> >>      than binary
> >>      >      > phrase table.
> >>      >      > I am interested about memory usage, loading time,
> >>      translation time.
> >>      >      > Data size is also important, however memory usage and
> >>      time is more
> >>      >      > important to me.
> >>      >      > Can I get a data about comparison between two table?
> >>      >      > Thank you.
> >>      >      >
> >>      >      >
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