Thanks, Found it

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 14 June 2013 18:24, Mohammad Salameh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank You German and Hie for your reply
>> It is just from what I noticed that the transition score of a hypothesis
>> is it is score minus the score of the hypothesis stated in the "Back"
>> field.(am I right? )
>>
>> Also I tried multiplying the core scores with the weights from moses.ini
>> (and then sum over the multiplication), but I did not get the the right
>> score indicated by the hypothesis above. How can I know the correct
>> ordering of the core scores so that I achieve correct multiplication ?
>>
>
> at the beginning, there should be lines like this:
>    FeatureFunction: KENLM0 start: 0 end: 1
>    FeatureFunction: Distortion0 start: 1 end: 2
>    FeatureFunction: WordPenalty0 start: 2 end: 3
>    ...
> that is the order of the score vector
>
>> Thanks,
>> Salameh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> German is right, the extra score is for the feature
>>>    UnknownWordPenalty
>>> It's usually not shown because it's weight doesn't need to be tuned.
>>>
>>> To 'unhide' it, put this in your ini file
>>>   UnknownWordPenalty tuneable=true
>>>
>>> On 14 June 2013 09:55, Germán Sanchis Trilles <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> there are 15 core scores because one of them (probably one of the
>>>> zeroes in the example you provided) is the out-of-vocabulary penalty, which
>>>> is zero if there is none, or -100 for each OoV.
>>>>
>>>> The "score", afaik, is the accumulated score, while the "transition" is
>>>> the combination of the "core" scores, which you should be able to achieve
>>>> by multiplying the "core" scores by the weights in the moses.ini, taking
>>>> into account that the order has to match and that there is a OoV penalty (0
>>>> in this case) with weight 1.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Germán
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Mohammad Salameh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi I am working on the osgx file and I want to make sure what the core
>>>>> scores in bold
>>>>> below means.
>>>>>
>>>>> 0 hyp=92 stack=1 back=0 score=-1.622 transition=-1.622 forward=2346
>>>>> fscore=-7.220
>>>>> covered=4-4scores="core=0.000,**-1.000,-1.705,-1.946,-4.290,-**
>>>>> 3.850,1.000,0.000,0.000,-0.**336,0.000,0
>>>>> .000,0.000,-4.000,-15.454) " out="reject|AlrAfDp"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Each hypothesis has 15 core features while the moses,ini below has 14
>>>>> features. Why is
>>>>> there an extra score?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LexicalReordering0= 0.0763367 0.00720199 0.0806019 0.0411903 0.0565713
>>>>> 0.0805696
>>>>> Distortion0= 0.0400278
>>>>> LM0= 0.0903804
>>>>> WordPenalty0= -0.168358
>>>>> TranslationModel0= 0.0558195 0.0296544 0.0225311 0.0427546 0.208002
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, are the core scores used to compute the hypothesis score=-1.622
>>>>> the above ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Salameh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
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