Hi,

does somebody know if Moses has already been applied to the language 
pair Italian-German, outside of MT@EC?

thanks

Am 2014-10-18 um 16:08 schrieb [email protected]:
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> Hi
> I want to use Moses to translate languages that each side of languages
> are not English with different script format (like Persian scripts which is 
> right to left script)
> Is it appropriate to use Moses to translate the such languages?
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> From: Hieu Hoang <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] using factored models
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> hi mohammad
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> On 17 October 2014 21:45, Mohammad Salameh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Hieu,
>> I wan to exclude the <s> because I want to translate chunks of source
>> sentences  with one model, and then add them  and their score as extra
>> feature to a phrase table of a different model.
>> So I don't want the sentence boundaries to be involved in the translation.
>>
> I understand. Moses doesn't allow you to exclude <s>, however, if you don't
> want the score for this, then maybe you should write a feature function to
> subtract it from the score. Or modify an existing language model to not
> score <s>
>
>>
>> Also, I trained a factored system with  --translation-factors 0-0,1. The
>> training process ended successfully and I do not see any error with the
>> training.out file.
>> But the tuning and decoding is ending up with Segmentation Fault error
>> when loading the phrase table and when it reaches 3% when loading.
>> I have attached the mert.out.
>> Would it be possible to know the reason, or which phrases in the phrase
>> table is causing the interruption in loading?
>>
> Can you also send the moses.ini file you used, and the EXACT command you
> executed.
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Salameh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Hieu Hoang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   sorry, must have missed your email. Answers below
>>>
>>> On 16/10/14 20:21, Mohammad Salameh wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> any answer to the above questions,
>>> Thanks,
>>> Salameh
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Mohammad Salameh <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> I have few questions on how Moses system works
>>>>
>>>>   1) would it be possible to do a factored translation where factors
>>>> appear in the output but do not be part of the translation process. For
>>>> example, I have English surface form on source side and  Arabic surface and
>>>> their stems on the target side. I want to translate from English surface
>>>> form to Arabic surface, but also see the stems accompanying the surface
>>>> forms in the output.
>>>>   I have tried setting --translation-factors 0-0 , but only ended up
>>>> with the Arabic surface forms in the output.
>>>>
>>>    I'm not sure what you mean by 'not be part of the translation
>>> process'. If you want to see the stem in the output but you don't want it
>>> in the translation table, then there needs to be some process that generate
>>> the stem, given the target word. Moses has a crude solution - it is called
>>> the generation step.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   2) when translating sentences with moses , I assume that moses adds
>>>> the sentence boundary markers <s> </s> automatically. Would it be possible
>>>> to exclude these from the translation. I need to get translation scores for
>>>> chunks of input sentences which does not involve scores generated based on
>>>> <s> and </s> from LM or phrase table.
>>>>
>>>    Yes, it include <s> </s>. No, you can't exclude these from the
>>> translation process.
>>>
>>> I'm curious to know why you want to exclude these
>>>
>>>
>>>>   3) I added additional phrases to the phrase table. Should the phrase
>>>> table be sorted again and is it enough to do "LC_ALL=C sort " on the PT to
>>>> be used properly ?
>>>>
>>>    Yes, it needs to be sorted again. You must also make sure that the new
>>> phrases are not duplicates of existing phrases
>>>
>>>
>>>>   Thanks
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