Dear Hieu,

That sounds great – then it’s finally  a time for upgrade ☺

As Barry mentioned – could you briefly share with us where moses stands with 
IRTSLM?

Thanks,


Tomas

From: Hieu Hoang [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:51 AM
To: Tomas Fulajtar
Cc: Barry Haddow; moses-support
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Fwd: Fwd: Server development

i'm not sure about v 2.1.1 but v 3.0 should have no problems using threads. 
(Apart from when using it with IRSTLM, but that's another issue)

Hieu Hoang
Researcher
New York University, Abu Dhabi
http://www.hoang.co.uk/hieu

On 6 May 2015 at 11:38, Tomas Fulajtar 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Barry,

Thanks for explanation –  I was referring to “[Moses-support] mosesserver 
parallelization 
issue<https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=subject:%22%5C%5BMoses%5C-support%5C%5D+mosesserver+parallelization+issue%22&o=newest>”
 thread in April 2014.

Do you thing the thread pool would be  also the solution for this issue 
reported on 2.1.1 branch.?

Thanks,

Tomas


From: Barry Haddow [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:27 PM
To: Hieu Hoang; moses-support
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Fwd: Fwd: Server development

HI Tomas

There were some issues in v2 with the way that caching was done in the 
binarised phrase table. It used a cache per thread, and mosesserver used a 
thread per request, so caching was effectively broken in the server. Since last 
Autumn, mosesserver uses a thread pool ... and the binarised phrase table is 
gone now anyway,

cheers - Barry



On 05/05/15 18:27, Hieu Hoang wrote:

What limitations are you referring to?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Ulrich Germann" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 5 May 2015 19:49
Subject: [Moses-support] Fwd: Server development
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc:
This response was meant to go to moses-support as well Tomas.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tomas Fulajtar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Moses-support] Server development
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Hi Ulrich,

Thanks for the thorough explanation -  the idea of merging the server code back 
to moses is great.
Apart from this (and I know is is a huge workload), were there any changes in 
the thread support?  I know this part had some limitations – as discussed on 
the forum.

Kind regards,
Tomas


From: Ulrich Germann 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 12:57 AM
To: Tomas Fulajtar
Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Server development

Hi Tomas,

the plan is to fold server capabilities into the main moses executable. In 
fact, that has already happened (in the sense that you can run the main moses 
executable in server mode), but functional equivalence with the old code has 
not been tested.

There are currently no server tests included in the regression tests, so I left 
the old code mostly intact (adjusting only for changes in the API of functions 
called) for legacy reasons, but adding new functionality to mosesserver is 
extremely strongly DIScouraged.

Supplying regression tests for server functionality, on the other hand, is 
equally strongly ENcouraged. In a nutshell, what you get back from calling 
mosesserver and moses --server should be identical.

The long-term plan is to offer through RPC calls (almost) everything that moses 
offers in batch mode (i.e., send search and output parameters through json/RCP 
calls and have them noticed and respected). Notice the "long-term" there.

So mosesserver is on its way out, and moses --server-port=<port> --server will 
replace the old call to mosesserver.

Best regards - Uli

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Tomas Fulajtar 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear all,

I have spotted there were numerous commits in the server side development -  
could the developers share the news/goals with the forum?  I think it might be 
interesting for more users – especially those out of core team.

Thank you,

Tomáš Fulajtár | Researcher
T: +420-545-552-340<tel:%2B420-545-552-340>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | 
moravia.com<http://www.moravia.com/> | Skype: tomasfulajtar


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