Lane, thank you. You picked up on the "frequent mentions of investors" 
as I did. Not only is it "non sequitur" on this list, it's simply bad 
form and out of line.

James: PTTools is (through Jeroen and I) an active commercial 
participant on this list and there are others. Our business dealings are 
of no concern to the advancement of the science this list supports. Nor 
have I see others expose their business dealings here. Where PTTools' 
business might affect the list, we have done our best to work with the 
team to lighten their load. If all your ranting about broken moses is 
about justifying your claims to investors, you and your attitude are way 
out of line! If I were to step out of line like this, I would hope 
someone here would call me on it and finally sensor me if I continue 
down that path.

Tom


On 6/19/2015 11:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:10:31 -0500
> From: Lane Schwartz <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Moses-support] Major bug found in Moses
> To: "Read, James C" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,  Philipp Koehn
>       <[email protected]>
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> James,
>
> > 1) Acknowledging that the search algorithm performs poorly with no LM,
> > tuning or pruning despite the fact the search space clearly contains high
> > quality translations
> >
> Yes. We all acknowledge this. If you have a better technique, that's great.
> Show that it's better. Your paper does not do so.
>
> 2) to a public display of en-masse reluctance to acknowledge that such is
> > an undesirable quality of the system
> >
> Yes, this is undesirable. If you have a better technique, that's great.
> Show that it's better. Your paper does not do so.
>
>
> > 3) to resorting to censorship not only in the literature but also on a
> > public mailing list rather than acknowledge point 2.
> >
> No one is trying to censor you in the literature. You wrote a paper that
> got rejected. Lots of papers get rejected. Lots of GOOD papers get
> rejected. The fact that yours got rejected does not mean that you're being
> censored.
>
> No one is trying to censor you on this list. We are simply requesting that
> you conduct yourself like a well-mannered adult engaged in scientific
> research.
>
>
> By the way, your frequent mentions of investors are very much a non
> sequitur. You may be looking for investors, and that's fine if you are. You
> may want to keep in mind that not everyone is. Many of us are interested in
> this as a field of scientific enquiry.

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