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Today's Topics:
1. Re: constatus (John Byrne)
2. Re: constatus (TN Patriot)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 08:18:33 -0700
From: John Byrne <jbyrne...@yahoo.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] constatus
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Hi John,
My name is John too. That?s a great development idea. I have programmed User
Interfaces before and am interested in working with you (and whoever else wants
to join). One caveat, I haven?t done unix ui development for about 20 years.
But I have done other UI Development recently (with Java.) The technology I?m
using (Motif, emacs, gcc, and XWindows) may be a little old. I tried setting
up Eclipse C (CDT) environment and I couldn?t get it to work. I don?t think
using Java is a good idea to develop the UI because the video APIs are
non-existent. If an example of the camera view needs to be shown C/C++ is a
must, unless you want to deal with JNI/JNA or other Java/C/C++ interfacing
frameworks/tools.
I also don?t have a GUI builder, it?s by hand, so it may be a little slower
than normal. However, it?s doable.
What did you (and others) have in mind for the first set of functionality to
write a GUI for? Any ideas? Or am I on my own with this? A GUI layout would
be really nice! (That way I could get some idea of what I?m up against.)
Also, I was thinking, as first thoughts, the main interface between motion and
configuration would be launching a few execs and modifying the config file
appropriately. However, this probably isn?t optimal. Ideally it would call
motion C code directly, using existing structures to print out the config file.
Any thoughts?
I saw your comment about installing and think that it isn?t that difficult to
install. Simply an ?sudo apt-get install ?? command. I don?t think it?s worth
writing a UI to do just this. Unless you mean installing versions not in the
apt-get library. Then it may be worth while. Let me know what you think.
Thank you,
John Byrne
> On Aug 20, 2017, at 3:07 PM, TN Patriot <irgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:07:51 +0200
> folkert <folk...@vanheusden.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For fun I wrote Constatus. It is like Motion but simpler and not as
>> advanced. Just because I can :-)
>> Maybe it has things that are interesting for Motion as well?
>> https://vanheusden.com/constatus/
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Folkert van Heusden
>>
>
> Thanks for this, Folkert. Unfortunately, not being a programmer in any way,
> shape or form, I'm not sure how to go about installing/using it. I've been
> hoping someone would write up a gui for motion so I can use it, because as it
> is now, Motion and that other big one for Linux give me headaches trying to
> figure out just how to install them much less use them.
>
> Thanks for any assistance,
>
> John
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 14:29:40 -0500
From: TN Patriot <irgu...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] constatus
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2017 08:18:33 -0700
John Byrne via Motion-user <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 2017, at 3:07 PM, TN Patriot <irgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:07:51 +0200
> > folkert <folk...@vanheusden.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> For fun I wrote Constatus. It is like Motion but simpler and not as
> >> advanced. Just because I can :-)
> >> Maybe it has things that are interesting for Motion as well?
> >> https://vanheusden.com/constatus/
> >>
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> Folkert van Heusden
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for this, Folkert. Unfortunately, not being a programmer in any way,
> > shape or form, I'm not sure how to go about installing/using it. I've been
> > hoping someone would write up a gui for motion so I can use it, because as
> > it is now, Motion and that other big one for Linux give me headaches trying
> > to figure out just how to install them much less use them.
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> Hi John,
>
> My name is John too. That?s a great development idea. I have programmed User
> Interfaces before and am interested in working with you (and whoever else
> wants to join). One caveat, I haven?t done unix ui development for about 20
> years. But I have done other UI Development recently (with Java.) The
> technology I?m using (Motif, emacs, gcc, and XWindows) may be a little old. I
> tried setting up Eclipse C (CDT) environment and I couldn?t get it to work. I
> don?t think using Java is a good idea to develop the UI because the video APIs
> are non-existent. If an example of the camera view needs to be shown C/C++ is
> a must, unless you want to deal with JNI/JNA or other Java/C/C++ interfacing
> frameworks/tools.
As far as I'm concerned, anything that would work in Linux would be fine, and
as far as I know (remember, I'm not a programmer at all) anything written in
C/C++ would be fast and safer than java. Hopefully that's what you were
talking about in the above paragraph, heh.
>
> I also don?t have a GUI builder, it?s by hand, so it may be a little slower
> than normal. However, it?s doable.
Also as far as I'm concerned there's no rush. I've been waiting for a decade+
to be able to use a motion detection program (had one working once years ago
when I had an old Philips until the kernel driver people screwed it up and it
stopped working correctly/well anymore), I can wait some more.
> What did you (and others) have in mind for the first set of functionality to
> write a GUI for? Any ideas? Or am I on my own with this? A GUI layout would
> be really nice! (That way I could get some idea of what I?m up against.)
Not real sure. I guess just anything that would make setting it up originally
and then adjusting settings, so long as not having to go into txt files can be
done with it (I can do txt file changes, but it's less easy to understand and
casn sometimes get screwed up by saving incorrectly or to the wrong place,
etc).
> Also, I was thinking, as first thoughts, the main interface between motion and
> configuration would be launching a few execs and modifying the config file
> appropriately. However, this probably isn?t optimal. Ideally it would call
> motion C code directly, using existing structures to print out the config
> file. Any thoughts?
Not sure what you just asked, lol...sorry.
> I saw your comment about installing and think that it isn?t that difficult to
> install. Simply an ?sudo apt-get install ?? command. I don?t think it?s
> worth writing a UI to do just this. Unless you mean installing versions not
> in the apt-get library. Then it may be worth while. Let me know what you
> think.
Too many distro's out there that use too many 'installation ways'. My distro
for example, Slackware, doesn't do that apt-get thing and uses source code the
most, but lately with things going to git and such confuse the heck out of me
and I have yet to figure out how anyone downloads anything useful from one of
those places :(
>
> Thank you,
> John Byrne
>
Thank *YOU* for doing this and still wanting to after hearing from someone as
dense as me, heh heh.
John
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