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Today's Topics:
1. Re: startup guide for new users (neoma...@tutanota.com)
2. Re: startup guide for new users (neoma...@tutanota.com)
3. Re: startup guide for new users (Colin Law)
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:30:51 +0200 (CEST)
From: <neoma...@tutanota.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] startup guide for new users
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Hi Colin,
Haha!? This is how lost I am.? I thought getting GRBL dialed was tricky but
this is crazy.? I watched a tutorial on youtube of a guy using something he
called Motion on a raspberry pi.? It had a grey UI with a window that showed
the 4 cameras on the right and had a menu with settings on the left.? This is
seriously confusing.? I've decided to step back from the software side of the
project and focus on the hardware.? We'll have to hire someone to code the
thing.
1. Aug 2018 13:22 by clan...@gmail.com <mailto:clan...@gmail.com>:
> On 1 August 2018 at 17:55, <> neoma...@tutanota.com
> <mailto:neoma...@tutanota.com>> > wrote:
>
>> >> I'm sure that it's not gibberish at all to someone with more
>> knowledge but it's nearly all way over my head, and to my friends, I'm the
>> computer guru...lol
>>
>> To be completely honest, it's all written at a level that seems to assume
>> some pretty significant linux and coding knowledge.? I did figure out that
>> setup is done by editing the config file, but after messing with it for
>> hours, all I got it to do it turn on the led next to my webcam.? I can't
>> even get the UI to run.
>
> Motion doesn't have a UI.? What exactly are you trying to run?
> ?
> Colin
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:45:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: <neoma...@tutanota.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] startup guide for new users
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MrDave,
I'd recommend adding a simple description of what exactly Motion does, and
maybe add some screen shots.? I've researched this for at least ten hours and
up until 5 minutes ago, I thought Motion had a UI that displayed the camera
views and settings.?
Another recommendation is to make the acronyms links that explain what the
acronym is.? Every time I come across one I don't know, usually about once per
sentence, I have to leave the page, search, sort through the noise, and figure
out what the acronym means specific to linux video.? Usually, during that
process, I have to look up ten more acronyms and by the time I've done that,
whatever momentum I got in understanding Motion gets lost and the cycle begins
again.? This is common to ALL linux related documentation.? I know that using
acronyms saves time but it basically forces users to learn a new language just
to get a base understanding.? I've tried to turn all of my friends onto linux
but the community practice of using acronyms constantly has chased all but one
of them off.
If the guide was laid out in a step by step process that mirrors the normal
workflow of setup and use, it would be much easier to understand.? The
descriptions are all really well written but linking it all together into a
working process order is really difficult.
Once I get more caught up with other projects, I'll keep digging deeper but at
this point, the learning curve has become a brick wall.
Thanks again for your time!? I'm sure Motion will be awesome when I become
smart enough to use it.
1. Aug 2018 17:23 by motionmrd...@gmail.com <mailto:motionmrd...@gmail.com>:
>
> I was hoping you could reference an actual link you were reading.? I
> included the Motion home page below my response which has a link to the
> documentation (mainly copied from the old wiki of? "getting started").?
>
>
> It starts off with a general description of setting up the cameras and
> then goes into the various configuration options.? The general
> description was written specifically for those that have zero coding
> knowledge.? If there are specific items in it that are not clear,
> require specialized knowledge or are missing, I'd be interested in know
> what they are so that? it? can be expanded or rewritten.
>
>
> This is the exact link that is on the documentation page.
>
> https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html
> <https://motion-project.github.io/motion_config.html>
>
>
>
> > On 8/1/2018 2:22 PM, Colin Law wrote:
> >
>> >> >> >> On 1 August 2018 at 17:55, <>>
>> neoma...@tutanota.com <mailto:neoma...@tutanota.com>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> >>> I'm sure that it's not gibberish at all
>>> to someone with more knowledge but it's nearly all way over
>>> my head, and to my friends, I'm the computer guru...lol
>>>
>>> To be completely honest, it's all written at a level
>>> that seems to assume some pretty significant linux and
>>> coding knowledge.? I did figure out that setup is done by
>>> editing the config file, but after messing with it for
>>> hours, all I got it to do it turn on the led next to my
>>> webcam.? I can't even get the UI to run.>>>
>>
>> >> >> Motion doesn't have a UI.? What exactly are
>> you trying to run?
>> >> >> ?
>> >> >> Colin
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:47:45 +0100
From: Colin Law <clan...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] startup guide for new users
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On 2 August 2018 at 16:30, <neoma...@tutanota.com> wrote:
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> Hi Colin,
>
> Haha! This is how lost I am. I thought getting GRBL dialed was tricky
> but this is crazy. I watched a tutorial on youtube of a guy using
> something he called Motion on a raspberry pi. It had a grey UI with a
> window that showed the 4 cameras on the right and had a menu with settings
> on the left. This is seriously confusing. I've decided to step back from
> the software side of the project and focus on the hardware. We'll have to
> hire someone to code the thing.
>
That might have been Motion Eye [1] which is a GUI front end to Motion
[2]. It is separate from Motion itself and was not developed by the Motion
team.
[1] https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye/wiki
[2] https://motion-project.github.io/
Colin
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