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1. Re: motion compatible PoE+ cameras? (tosiara)
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 11:21:55 +0200
From: tosiara <tosi...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] motion compatible PoE+ cameras?
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FWIW,
I experimented with as possible cheapest cameras available on
Aliexpress. Took two RTSP cameras under the brand "BESDER" for $12
bullet with 720p and 12V power supply and one dome for $15 with 960p
and PoE. Both provide pretty decent quality in IR mode. And both have
been running fine with motion for the past year. The cons are: both of
them require Internet Explorer with ActiveX enabled in order to change
the config which is annoying. And unfortunately, IR leds started to
fail one by one recently: out of 24 leds there are only 5 operating at
the moment and decreasing by one each week so I expect it to die soon.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:00 PM Mil?n Pataki <milans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And that ipcam has its own proprietary motion detection SW. Check the item
> description and the manufacturer's site.
> If the features are satisfying and worth the price for you, it could be a
> good choice. (I don't have any experience with this manufacturer)
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 8:14 PM MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If the link is correct, that seems to be a very expensive PTZ camera
>> which is a different situation. The typical POE camera I think most
>> people are using is fixed location and focus. If you are looking for a
>> PTZ there is a lot of custom scripting required.
>>
>> While Motion version 4.2.1 allows for setting up a set of custom scripts
>> to execute via the manual tracking type, it is still pretty basic.
>> Prior Motion versions only did very specific PTZ models.
>>
>> To get the PTZ to work (in order to justify the cost of that camera),
>> you will need to get from the company the url commands that invoke the
>> movement and zoom. Some manufacturers have been reported to refuse to
>> release those so you'd have to wireshark the network to see them and
>> reverse engineer a script. I also noted that it includes audio which
>> Motion does not support. (It is frequently illegal to just record audio
>> without you being actively listening)
>>
>> Personally, I use the fixed focus/location ones from Aliexpress (5MP poe
>> is ~$45USD). Perhaps others with a PTZ can comment on their experiences.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 12/16/18 11:05 AM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
>> > Thank you very much for that excellent reply. Since it supports RTSP,
>> > I think I'll take a chance on http://amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4PLZ9M/
>> > as it includes the PoE injector, unless anyone sees a
>> > motion-contraindication for the item.
>> >
>> > On 12/15/18 9:19 PM, MrDave wrote:
>> >> It is probably a shorter list to indicate which do NOT work. The
>> >> cameras that have their own proprietary streaming and subscription
>> >> services may not work.
>> >>
>> >> Look for the streaming protocols the camera supports and find ones
>> >> that list RTSP. May also want to do a internet search for the RTSP
>> >> connection string for that camera just in case the documentation
>> >> provided with the camera does not provide it. (It SHOULD but
>> >> occasionally does not). There are 100's if not 1,000's of these
>> >> cameras on Amazon and Aliexpress.
>> >>
>> >> Note that since these cameras usually use H264 for compression of the
>> >> stream, the computer running Motion may need to be a more powerful to
>> >> decompress and process the images
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> On 12/15/2018 9:52 PM, Tony Ross via Motion-user wrote:
>> >>> Greetings,
>> >>>
>> >>> What PoE+ cameras will work with motion, please? I've been using
>> >>> some Logitech USB cameras for the past half-decade and would like to
>> >>> upgrade to some IP PoE+ cameras.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for your replies.
>> >>>
>> >>>
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