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1. Re: can Motion be run without using sudo (Adam Goryachev)
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Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:27:17 +1000
From: Adam Goryachev <mailingli...@websitemanagers.com.au>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] can Motion be run without using sudo
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On 17/7/19 8:21 am, Jack Christensen wrote:
>
> mmalcam works but as the doc states, only if Motion is installed from
> the .deb file. In order to do that, it's first necessary to install
> the gdebi utility which is then used to install the .deb file.
>
> That's what I did, very straightforward actually, mmalcam is working
> fine for me, using the 4.2.2 release.
>
> I believe that modprobe is a one time thing, but if there is a kernel
> update, then it will need to be done again. Someone can correct me if
> that's wrong.
>
I believe you would need to load the kernel module each time you reboot.
I'd suggest manually doing a reboot and testing everything starts up
correctly.
You should probably:
echo bcm2835-v4l2 > /etc/modules
That will ensure the module is loaded after a reboot.
Regards,
Adam
> On 7/16/19 3:24 PM, Ted Romer wrote:
>> With Motion 4.1.1, does the mmalcam option (I am using a PiCam) still
>> work? I was reading the Basic Setup page for Motion on the GitHub
>> site (motion-project.github.io <http://motion-project.github.io>) and
>> it said for using Motion installed by apt to use the bcm2835-v4l2
>> module (sudo modprobe bcm2835-v4l2). If I should be using the module,
>> is loading it a once and done thing or do I need to load it after
>> each restart of the Pi?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Jack Christensen
>>> <christensen.jac...@gmail.com <mailto:christensen.jac...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ted,
>>>
>>> To start Motion on reboot, I have "@reboot motion" in my crontab.
>>>
>>> I wrote a couple simple scripts to operate three camera machines and
>>> a fourth machine (also a Pi Zero) that serves to archive the
>>> captured videos.
>>>
>>> One script just uses rsync to send the video files to the archive
>>> machine. This runs on the three camera machines, and is started by
>>> the on_movie_end parameter in the config file.
>>>
>>> A second script runs once a day on the archive machine, started by
>>> cron. It creates a directory, moves all the video files collected
>>> that day to it, stops Motion on the camera machines, deletes all
>>> videos on the camera machines and retrieves the motion log, then
>>> restarts Motion.
>>>
>>> The whole setup has worked quite well.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/15/19 7:57 PM, Ted Romer wrote:
>>>> Putting the pid file and log in the home directory is a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have Motion set to start on reboot? If so, how do you
>>>> configure it? I have three Pis running Motion and I have a call in
>>>> rc.local to start Motion on reboot. That gets Motion restarted when
>>>> the power goes out.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 6:23 PM, Jack Christensen
>>>> <christensen.jac...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:christensen.jac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been running Motion on several Pi Zero W machines without
>>>>> sudo. I like to create my own user (jack) instead of using pi but
>>>>> I think pi should work the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> The config file is /home/jack/.motion/motion.conf
>>>>>
>>>>> Log and pid files are in my home directory. In the config file I have:
>>>>>
>>>>> daemon on
>>>>> setup_mode off
>>>>> pid_file /home/jack/motion.pid
>>>>> log_file /home/jack/motion.log
>>>>>
>>>>> I start motion just with a simple "motion" command.
>>>>>
>>>>> Works very well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/19 6:51 PM, Ted Romer wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately, none have worked. I
>>>>>> tried editing /etc/default/motion and setting it to ?yes?
>>>>>> (without the quotes) and then I issued the command ?sudo
>>>>>> systemctl enable motion? (without the quotes) and then rebooted.
>>>>>> Motion failed to start. This is what I got when I typed sudo
>>>>>> systemctl status motion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:39 sPiCam2 systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Start Motion
>>>>>> detection...
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:42 sPiCam2 motion[257]: Starting motion detection
>>>>>> daemon: motion.
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:43 sPiCam2 systemd[1]: Started LSB: Start Motion
>>>>>> detection.
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:50 sPiCam2 motion[329]: [17090184:motion] [NTC]
>>>>>> [ALL] conf_load: Processing thread 0 - config file /etc/motion
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:50 sPiCam2 motion[329]: [17090184:motion] [ALR]
>>>>>> [ALL] conf_cmdparse: Unknown config option "mmalcam_name"
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:50 sPiCam2 motion[329]: [17090184:motion] [NTC]
>>>>>> [ALL] motion_startup: Motion 4.1.1 Started
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:50 sPiCam2 motion[329]: [17090184:motion] [ERR]
>>>>>> [ALL] myfopen: Error opening file /var/log/motion/motion.log w
>>>>>> Jul 15 17:33:50 sPiCam2 motion[329]: [17090184:motion] [EMG]
>>>>>> [ALL] motion_startup: Exit motion, cannot create log file /var
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every time I try to get it to run as a service I get the file
>>>>>> permissions error on /var/log/motion/motion.log
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It runs okay when I use "sudo motion -c /.motion/motion.conf" ?or
>>>>>> ? " sudo motion -c /etc/motion/motion.conf? ? (Ihave the
>>>>>> motion.conf file in both locations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 2:40 PM, Allan Peda <bizco...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:bizco...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be sure SELinux is off before you start adjusting permissions.?
>>>>>>> I am running motion with it enabled, but permissions are
>>>>>>> trickier when it's set to enforcing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's an article explaining:
>>>>>>> https://www.tecmint.com/disable-selinux-temporarily-permanently-in-centos-rhel-fedora/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As to the service, in a modern distro, the systemd subsystem
>>>>>>> controls why user "owns" a given service.
>>>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/676007/how-do-i-make-my-systemd-service-run-via-specific-user-and-start-on-boot#676022
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'll need to master commands chown, and chmod to get those
>>>>>>> files writeable without destroying security.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:48 PM Ted Romer <li227...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:li227...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I upgraded one of my systems and I am trying to see if I can
>>>>>>> run Motion without sudo. I have a Pi Zero W with Buster Lite
>>>>>>> and Motion 4.1.1. I have been starting Motion on my systems
>>>>>>> with sudo but I would like to see if I can get it to run
>>>>>>> without sudo. My user account is pi. If I try to run Motion
>>>>>>> as pi it fails out due to lack of permission to write to
>>>>>>> /var/log/motion/motion.log and also cannot create the pid
>>>>>>> file. If I try to get Motion to start as a service I get
>>>>>>> file permissions errors on /var/log/motion/motion.log. When
>>>>>>> I start motion with sudo, my jpg and video files are created
>>>>>>> with root as the owner. I am having the files saved in a
>>>>>>> directory in pi?s home directory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been searching for information pertaining to how to
>>>>>>> configure and deal with the permissions issues but have not
>>>>>>> found a solution. Is there a way to do it without sudo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>
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