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Re: Artefacts on video when detecting motion (L?vai) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:59:06 +0300 From: tosiara <tosi...@gmail.com> To: L?vai, D?niel <l...@ecentrum.hu>, Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Artefacts on video when detecting motion Message-ID: <cachtdwsum+fyh8jnrxzgcex0g5ssg621wf8qu38snmovs3d...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Try to set netcam_use_tcp on On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM L?vai, D?niel <l...@ecentrum.hu> wrote: > Hi list! > > I'm having this weird issue when using motion, that when motion is > detected, it garbles the image [1][2] along the change (i.e.: motion). Also > sometimes half or most of the screen is just missing. > This is a Besder net camera, using RTSP UDP streaming. I've tried to > fiddle with a couple of options regarding motion detection but to be honest > I don't quite understand them (other than figuring out the threshold), so > eventually I just left everything at the default setting. > I've also tried to change the resolution (in motion(1) config) to a lower > one (from 1080p to 720p, and even halving it to 540p), tried to lower the > built-in movie quality setting, tried to use passthrough and tried to use > the extpipe option to define my ffmpeg command line, but sadly the issue > persists anyway. I even turned off movie recording at one point and just > tried to save pictures, but every so often this happened on the pictures as > well. > > Also I'm usually getting these errors every now and then: > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 34 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 2 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 61 55, bytestream -5 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 22 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 64 21, bytestream -6 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 6 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 61 13, bytestream -5 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 114 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 112 10, bytestream -10 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 36 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 37 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 111 25, bytestream -5 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 40 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 32 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 64 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: left block unavailable > for requested intra4x4 mode -1 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 0 8, bytestream 3625 > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. > need to consume packet > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 35 packets > [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding > MB 25 44, bytestream -7 > > > What I can tell otherwise, is that when recording from the same camera > with ffmpeg(1) and encoding it with libx264 or even using -codec:v copy, > there's nothing wrong with the picture. What I actually do currently is > just running ffmpeg and slicing up the video files every 3 minutes or so: > $ ffmpeg -hide_banner -loglevel warning -y -threads 0 -an -f rtsp -i > rtsp://kamera-eloszoba/onvif1 -codec:v copy -reset_timestamps 1 -f segment > -segment_time 00:03:00 -strftime 1 > /mnt/storage/motion/Eloszoba-BESDER_6024PB_JW201-%Y%m%d@%H%M%S.mkv > > This produces good movie files, and not a trace of the quirky artefacts > that are on the sample videos and image files I'm attaching. Also, when the > picture is still on the video recorded by motion(1), there seems to be no > problem and it seems the issue shows up with motion -- no pun intended :) > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated! > > > Dani > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ra4fgFVPCY > [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaVbAmQh_8w > > > p.s.: I'm attaching my config file, but unfortunately the default > configuration file produces the same results: > > motion.conf: > native_language off > target_dir /mnt/motion/ > videodevice /dev/video0 > v4l2_palette 17 > input -1 > norm 0 > frequency 0 > auto_brightness 0 > roundrobin_frames 1 > roundrobin_skip 1 > roundrobin_switchfilter off > netcam_keepalive off > netcam_tolerant_check off > text_left %$ > text_right %Y-%m-%d\n%T > text_changes off > text_event %Y%m%d%H%M%S > emulate_motion off > threshold 5000 > threshold_maximum 0 > threshold_tune on > noise_level 16 > noise_tune on > smart_mask_speed 200 > lightswitch_percent 0 > lightswitch_frames 5 > minimum_motion_frames 1 > event_gap 10 > pre_capture 3 > post_capture 10 > picture_output_motion off > picture_filename %Y/%m/%d/%H/%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v-%q > snapshot_filename %Y/%m/%d/%H/%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v-snapshot > movie_output_motion off > movie_filename %Y/%m/%d/%H/%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v > timelapse_interval 0 > timelapse_mode daily > timelapse_fps 30 > timelapse_codec mpg > timelapse_filename %Y%m%d-timelapse > webcontrol_port 8080 > webcontrol_ipv6 off > webcontrol_localhost on > webcontrol_parms 0 > webcontrol_interface 0 > webcontrol_auth_method 0 > webcontrol_tls off > stream_port 8081 > stream_localhost on > stream_auth_method 0 > stream_tls off > stream_preview_scale 50 > stream_preview_newline off > stream_preview_method 1 > stream_quality 50 > stream_grey off > stream_motion on > stream_maxrate 10 > database_type postgresql > database_dbname motion > database_host storage > database_port 5432 > database_user motion > database_password <redacted> > database_busy_timeout 15 > sql_log_picture on > sql_log_snapshot on > sql_log_movie on > sql_log_timelapse off > sql_query_start INSERT INTO motion_events(event, camera_name, camera_id, > event_id, event_timestamp, event_year, event_month, event_day, event_hour, > event_minute, event_second, event_dir) values('start', '%$', %t, %v, > '%Y-%m-%d %T', %Y, %m, %d, %H, %M, %S, '%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v'); -- > sql_query_stop INSERT INTO motion_events(event, camera_name, camera_id, > event_id, event_timestamp, event_year, event_month, event_day, event_hour, > event_minute, event_second) values('stop', '%$', %t, %v, '%Y-%m-%d %T', %Y, > %m, %d, %H, %M, %S); -- > sql_query INSERT INTO motion_events(event, camera_name, camera_id, > event_id, event_timestamp, event_year, event_month, event_day, event_hour, > event_minute, event_second, filename, width, height, frame, file_type) > values('media', '%$', %t, %v, '%Y-%m-%d %T', %Y, %m, %d, %H, %M, %S, '%f', > %w, %h, %q, %n); -- > track_type 0 > track_auto off > track_motorx 0 > track_motorx_reverse off > track_motory 0 > track_motory_reverse off > track_maxx 0 > track_minx 0 > track_maxy 0 > track_miny 0 > track_homex 128 > track_homey 128 > track_iomojo_id 0 > track_step_angle_x 10 > track_step_angle_y 10 > track_move_wait 10 > track_speed 255 > track_stepsize 40 > camera_dir /etc/motion/conf.d > > /etc/motion/conf.d: > camera_name Eloszoba-BESDER_6024PB_JW201 > camera_id 101 > netcam_url rtsp://kamera-eloszoba/onvif1 > netcam_use_tcp off > on_event_start /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba event_start %v %$ %t > %Y %m %d %H %M %S %q none 0 > on_event_end /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba event_stop %v %$ %t %Y > %m %d %H %M %S %q none 0 > on_picture_save /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba picture_save %v %$ %t > %Y %m %d %H %M %S %q %f %n > on_movie_start /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba movie_start %v %$ %t > %Y %m %d %H %M %S %q %f %n > on_movie_end /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba movie_end %v %$ %t %Y %m > %d %H %M %S %q %f %n > width 960 > height 540 > text_scale 2 > snapshot_interval 5 > picture_output on > picture_quality 75 > picture_type jpeg > picture_output_motion off > movie_output on > movie_output_motion off > framerate 10 > movie_max_time 60 > movie_quality 0 > movie_bps 750000 > movie_codec mp4 > movie_duplicate_frames off > movie_passthrough off > movie_extpipe_use off > ;movie_extpipe /usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -threads 0 -an -f rawvideo -pix_fmt > yuvj420p -framerate %fps -s:v %wx%h -i pipe:0 -codec:v libx264 -b:v 750k > -preset:v ultrafast -f mp4 %f.mp4 > > > > -- > L?vai, D?niel > _______________________________________________ > Motion-user mailing list > Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user > https://motion-project.github.io/ > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/motion-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:04:04 +0000 From: L?vai, D?niel <l...@ecentrum.hu> To: tosi...@gmail.com, motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Artefacts on video when detecting motion Message-ID: <8b3MiDGCw0zsSbe22lg0b5S5AHt148YfpkRpkx5s2jZPJX2aSwI8wDCJOeLLCSSEvxxqQxSHWSKvXwqRWhd3-OD7LT1hjXM_-UpsDzpG_3w=@ecentrum.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Unfortunately this camera doesn't provide a TCP endpoint, so I'm stuck with UDP. -- L?vai, D?niel -------- Eredeti ?zenet -------- Be 2019. aug. 22. 11:59, tosiara ?rta: > Try to set netcam_use_tcp on > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 12:53 PM L?vai, D?niel <l...@ecentrum.hu> wrote: > >> Hi list! >> >> I'm having this weird issue when using motion, that when motion is detected, >> it garbles the image [1][2] along the change (i.e.: motion). Also sometimes >> half or most of the screen is just missing. >> This is a Besder net camera, using RTSP UDP streaming. I've tried to fiddle >> with a couple of options regarding motion detection but to be honest I don't >> quite understand them (other than figuring out the threshold), so eventually >> I just left everything at the default setting. >> I've also tried to change the resolution (in motion(1) config) to a lower >> one (from 1080p to 720p, and even halving it to 540p), tried to lower the >> built-in movie quality setting, tried to use passthrough and tried to use >> the extpipe option to define my ffmpeg command line, but sadly the issue >> persists anyway. I even turned off movie recording at one point and just >> tried to save pictures, but every so often this happened on the pictures as >> well. >> >> Also I'm usually getting these errors every now and then: >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 34 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 2 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 61 55, bytestream -5 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 22 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 64 21, bytestream -6 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 6 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 61 13, bytestream -5 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 114 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 112 10, bytestream -10 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 36 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 37 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 111 25, bytestream -5 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 40 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 32 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 64 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: left block unavailable >> for requested intra4x4 mode -1 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 0 8, bytestream 3625 >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: max delay reached. need >> to consume packet >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: RTP: missed 35 packets >> [2:nc2:Eloszoba-BE] [INF] [ENC] ffmpeg_avcodec_log: error while decoding MB >> 25 44, bytestream -7 >> >> What I can tell otherwise, is that when recording from the same camera with >> ffmpeg(1) and encoding it with libx264 or even using -codec:v copy, there's >> nothing wrong with the picture. What I actually do currently is just running >> ffmpeg and slicing up the video files every 3 minutes or so: >> $ ffmpeg -hide_banner -loglevel warning -y -threads 0 -an -f rtsp -i >> rtsp://kamera-eloszoba/onvif1 -codec:v copy -reset_timestamps 1 -f segment >> -segment_time 00:03:00 -strftime 1 >> /mnt/storage/motion/Eloszoba-BESDER_6024PB_JW201-%Y%m%d@%H%M%S.mkv >> >> This produces good movie files, and not a trace of the quirky artefacts that >> are on the sample videos and image files I'm attaching. Also, when the >> picture is still on the video recorded by motion(1), there seems to be no >> problem and it seems the issue shows up with motion -- no pun intended :) >> >> Any insight would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Dani >> >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ra4fgFVPCY >> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaVbAmQh_8w >> >> p.s.: I'm attaching my config file, but unfortunately the default >> configuration file produces the same results: >> >> motion.conf: >> native_language off >> target_dir /mnt/motion/ >> videodevice /dev/video0 >> v4l2_palette 17 >> input -1 >> norm 0 >> frequency 0 >> auto_brightness 0 >> roundrobin_frames 1 >> roundrobin_skip 1 >> roundrobin_switchfilter off >> netcam_keepalive off >> netcam_tolerant_check off >> text_left %$ >> text_right %Y-%m-%d\n%T >> text_changes off >> text_event %Y%m%d%H%M%S >> emulate_motion off >> threshold 5000 >> threshold_maximum 0 >> threshold_tune on >> noise_level 16 >> noise_tune on >> smart_mask_speed 200 >> lightswitch_percent 0 >> lightswitch_frames 5 >> minimum_motion_frames 1 >> event_gap 10 >> pre_capture 3 >> post_capture 10 >> picture_output_motion off >> picture_filename %Y/%m/%d/%H/%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v-%q >> snapshot_filename %Y/%m/%d/%H/%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v-snapshot >> movie_output_motion off >> movie_filename %Y/%m/%d/%H/%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v >> timelapse_interval 0 >> timelapse_mode daily >> timelapse_fps 30 >> timelapse_codec mpg >> timelapse_filename %Y%m%d-timelapse >> webcontrol_port 8080 >> webcontrol_ipv6 off >> webcontrol_localhost on >> webcontrol_parms 0 >> webcontrol_interface 0 >> webcontrol_auth_method 0 >> webcontrol_tls off >> stream_port 8081 >> stream_localhost on >> stream_auth_method 0 >> stream_tls off >> stream_preview_scale 50 >> stream_preview_newline off >> stream_preview_method 1 >> stream_quality 50 >> stream_grey off >> stream_motion on >> stream_maxrate 10 >> database_type postgresql >> database_dbname motion >> database_host storage >> database_port 5432 >> database_user motion >> database_password <redacted> >> database_busy_timeout 15 >> sql_log_picture on >> sql_log_snapshot on >> sql_log_movie on >> sql_log_timelapse off >> sql_query_start INSERT INTO motion_events(event, camera_name, camera_id, >> event_id, event_timestamp, event_year, event_month, event_day, event_hour, >> event_minute, event_second, event_dir) values('start', '%$', %t, %v, >> '%Y-%m-%d %T', %Y, %m, %d, %H, %M, %S, '%$-%t-%Y%m%d-%H%M%S-%v'); -- >> sql_query_stop INSERT INTO motion_events(event, camera_name, camera_id, >> event_id, event_timestamp, event_year, event_month, event_day, event_hour, >> event_minute, event_second) values('stop', '%$', %t, %v, '%Y-%m-%d %T', %Y, >> %m, %d, %H, %M, %S); -- >> sql_query INSERT INTO motion_events(event, camera_name, camera_id, event_id, >> event_timestamp, event_year, event_month, event_day, event_hour, >> event_minute, event_second, filename, width, height, frame, file_type) >> values('media', '%$', %t, %v, '%Y-%m-%d %T', %Y, %m, %d, %H, %M, %S, '%f', >> %w, %h, %q, %n); -- >> track_type 0 >> track_auto off >> track_motorx 0 >> track_motorx_reverse off >> track_motory 0 >> track_motory_reverse off >> track_maxx 0 >> track_minx 0 >> track_maxy 0 >> track_miny 0 >> track_homex 128 >> track_homey 128 >> track_iomojo_id 0 >> track_step_angle_x 10 >> track_step_angle_y 10 >> track_move_wait 10 >> track_speed 255 >> track_stepsize 40 >> camera_dir /etc/motion/conf.d >> >> /etc/motion/conf.d: >> camera_name Eloszoba-BESDER_6024PB_JW201 >> camera_id 101 >> netcam_url rtsp://kamera-eloszoba/onvif1 >> netcam_use_tcp off >> on_event_start /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba event_start %v %$ %t %Y >> %m %d %H %M %S %q none 0 >> on_event_end /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba event_stop %v %$ %t %Y %m >> %d %H %M %S %q none 0 >> on_picture_save /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba picture_save %v %$ %t >> %Y %m %d %H %M %S %q %f %n >> on_movie_start /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba movie_start %v %$ %t %Y >> %m %d %H %M %S %q %f %n >> on_movie_end /etc/motion/motion_event.sh eloszoba movie_end %v %$ %t %Y %m >> %d %H %M %S %q %f %n >> width 960 >> height 540 >> text_scale 2 >> snapshot_interval 5 >> picture_output on >> picture_quality 75 >> picture_type jpeg >> picture_output_motion off >> movie_output on >> movie_output_motion off >> framerate 10 >> movie_max_time 60 >> movie_quality 0 >> movie_bps 750000 >> movie_codec mp4 >> movie_duplicate_frames off >> movie_passthrough off >> movie_extpipe_use off >> ;movie_extpipe /usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -threads 0 -an -f rawvideo -pix_fmt >> yuvj420p -framerate %fps -s:v %wx%h -i pipe:0 -codec:v libx264 -b:v 750k >> -preset:v ultrafast -f mp4 %f.mp4 >> >> -- >> L?vai, D?niel >> _______________________________________________ >> Motion-user mailing list >> Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user >> https://motion-project.github.io/ >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/motion-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Motion-user mailing list Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user ------------------------------ End of Motion-user Digest, Vol 158, Issue 31 ********************************************