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1. Re: firefox does not load >6 "img src' from motion default
page (csspcmotion)
2. Re: firefox does not load >6 "img src' from motion default
page (mar...@savcom.co.uk)
3. Re: firefox does not load >6 "img src' from motion default
page (mar...@savcom.co.uk)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:13:20 -0400
From: csspcmotion <mot...@curtissystemssoftware.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>, rmbusy
<rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from
motion default page
Message-ID:
<478acab4-d10d-8061-4579-f9e4ed8b3...@curtissystemssoftware.com>
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Martin
are all simultaneous shown ?
---------
possible solution to simultaneous connection limit not requiring a
browser change could be:
without having to use the unconsolidated (where each camera has a
separate control port)...
need way to consolidate to port amount limit (so no browser changes are
required)
so say one has 14 cameras ... with default firefox setting (6
simultaneous persistent connections) would
required at least 3 different ports
could have something like this with ids? specified for a given group and
also what is their control port
6 cameras ids 1001-1006 could be on port 8081
6 cameras ids 2001-2006 could be on port 8082
2 cameras ids 3001-3002 could be on port 8083
and think should be able to use '0' indicating to? apply config setting
to all cams on all ports or show 'all cameras' on default generated webpage
as well as being able to disable any by setting stream_port to 0 within
a given camera conf file
On 6/15/20 1:05 PM, rmbusy wrote:
> I haven't tried opening more than 6 cameras in individual streams,
> which sounds like you're doing, then displaying all of them on a
> single page.? I've found the system resources on the motion capture
> machine pegs at max when I have more than a few streams open, so I
> just use the summary page, then open individual streams from there if
> there's something interesting to look at. Usually I use that page just
> to make sure all the cameras are still up (I need to reset something
> almost every other day).
>
> PerhapsMotion 4.2 and lateradopted the model you have in 4.0, and
> that's why I can't see more than 6 cameras on that page.? I thought I
> read somewhere in the release notes they changed the web server source
> to something different in 4.2, and figured that's what broke it.
>
>
> -
> Rob.
>
>
> On 6/15/20 9:30 AM, mar...@savcom.co.uk wrote:
>> I wasn't aware of this issue (mind you: I am only running motion 4.0
>> - and
>> all nine of my cameras display correctly on <ipaddr>:8180 using Firefox
>> 77.0.1)
>>
>> At the moment I use a simple web page that runs on my server to
>> display all
>> my cameras on a summary page that is currently showing the nine
>> camera feeds
>> simultaneously.? The page is built up of a sequence of CSS
>> 'flex-containers'
>> each containing the following structure:
>>
>> <div class="gallery">
>> ????? <div class="desc">Camera Three - Alleyway</div>
>> ????? <a href="Camera3.html"><img src="http://<ipaddr>:8183/"
>> alt="Camera
>> Three"></a>
>> </div>
>>
>> The link to Camera3.html allows you to click on the image of a camera's
>> output and be taken direct to that camera feed.? HTML for this page
>> is just
>> a top-and-tail of this:
>>
>> <div class="selected">
>> ???? <div class="desc">Camera Three - Alleyway</div>
>> ???? <a href="index.html"><img src="http://<ipaddr>:8183" alt="Camera
>> Three"></a>
>> </div>
>>
>> The structure is therefore very similar to that of the consolidated /
>> summary page referred to below (http://<IP>:8180).? Am I likely to
>> run into
>> this issue if I upgrade to 4.2 if it's claimed this is a Browser
>> limitation?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rmbusy <rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: 15 June 2020 17:02
>> To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from
>> motion
>> default page
>>
>> The issue is not with the individual streams, it's with the
>> consolidated /
>> summary page that shows all cameras as pseudo thumbnails
>> (http://<IP>:8180).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rob.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/15/20 1:45 AM, tosiara wrote:
>>> Motion has no limitation, it is that your browser prevents making more
>>> than 6 simultaneous connections to the same server If you run all
>>> motion streams on different ports - it will only count as 1 connection
>>> per server and port. If all your streams reside on the same port, like
>>> motion:8081/1/stream and motion:8081/2/stream - the browser will start
>>> count them
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:17 AM rmbusy <rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> That is really not an acceptable solution.? Not everyone uses a
>>>> browser that can be modified in that way.? I use several different
>>>> browsers, on multiple different devices, and not all have the option
>>>> to make changes like adjusting the max persistent connections.
>>>>
>>>> I've ended up regressing to version 4.1.1 to get around the issue,
>>>> and now I'm looking into Zoneminder (it seems to use more CPU, and
>>>> I'm pushing the limits of the current machine now with Motion).
>>>>
>>>> Is there some reason this limitation was added starting with Motion
>>>> 4.2?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/14/20 11:07 AM, tosiara wrote:
>>>>> Adjust your Firefox setting in about:config
>>>>>
>>>>> network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:10 PM csspcmotion
>>>>> <mot...@curtissystemssoftware.com> wrote:
>>>>>> i adding a few more cameras ... now firefox (ver 77.0) when
>>>>>> browsing default
>>>>>>
>>>>>> page at localhost:/8080? does not load more than 6 camera streams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in motion ... what adjustments can be made to overcome this issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:16:46 +0100
From: <mar...@savcom.co.uk>
To: "'Motion discussion list'" <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from
motion default page
Message-ID: <014701d64338$bfcef7d0$3f6ce770$@savcom.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I have an i7 PC that runs motion and also runs a number of virtual machines, so
I do have CPU power to spare.
The thumbnail HTML source for the motion summary page on my machine is:
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8181> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8181/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8182> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8182/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8183> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8183/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8184> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8184/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8185> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8185/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8186> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8186/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8187> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8187/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8188> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8188/ border=0
width=25%></a>
<a href=http://<ipaddr>:8189> <img src=http://<ipaddr>:8189/ border=0
width=25%></a>
And they all display/update at the same time.
Does anyone have the same code snippet from the same page on a motion 4.2
release?
-----Original Message-----
From: rmbusy <rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
Sent: 15 June 2020 18:06
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from motion
default page
I haven't tried opening more than 6 cameras in individual streams, which sounds
like you're doing, then displaying all of them on a single page. I've found the
system resources on the motion capture machine pegs at max when I have more
than a few streams open, so I just use the summary page, then open individual
streams from there if there's something interesting to look at. Usually I use
that page just to make sure all the cameras are still up (I need to reset
something almost every other day).
PerhapsMotion 4.2 and lateradopted the model you have in 4.0, and that's why I
can't see more than 6 cameras on that page. I thought I read somewhere in the
release notes they changed the web server source to something different in 4.2,
and figured that's what broke it.
-
Rob.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:19:21 +0100
From: <mar...@savcom.co.uk>
To: "'Motion discussion list'" <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from
motion default page
Message-ID: <014901d64339$1bfe5d20$53fb1760$@savcom.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Yes. I can send you a screenshot directly, as I think the list may suppress
this
-----Original Message-----
From: csspcmotion <mot...@curtissystemssoftware.com>
Sent: 15 June 2020 18:13
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>; rmbusy
<rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from motion
default page
Martin
are all simultaneous shown ?
---------
possible solution to simultaneous connection limit not requiring a browser
change could be:
without having to use the unconsolidated (where each camera has a separate
control port)...
need way to consolidate to port amount limit (so no browser changes are
required)
so say one has 14 cameras ... with default firefox setting (6 simultaneous
persistent connections) would required at least 3 different ports could have
something like this with ids specified for a given group and also what is
their control port
6 cameras ids 1001-1006 could be on port 8081
6 cameras ids 2001-2006 could be on port 8082
2 cameras ids 3001-3002 could be on port 8083 and think should be able to use
'0' indicating to apply config setting to all cams on all ports or show 'all
cameras' on default generated webpage as well as being able to disable any by
setting stream_port to 0 within a given camera conf file On 6/15/20 1:05 PM,
rmbusy wrote:
> I haven't tried opening more than 6 cameras in individual streams,
> which sounds like you're doing, then displaying all of them on a
> single page. I've found the system resources on the motion capture
> machine pegs at max when I have more than a few streams open, so I
> just use the summary page, then open individual streams from there if
> there's something interesting to look at. Usually I use that page just
> to make sure all the cameras are still up (I need to reset something
> almost every other day).
>
> PerhapsMotion 4.2 and lateradopted the model you have in 4.0, and
> that's why I can't see more than 6 cameras on that page. I thought I
> read somewhere in the release notes they changed the web server source
> to something different in 4.2, and figured that's what broke it.
>
>
> -
> Rob.
>
>
> On 6/15/20 9:30 AM, mar...@savcom.co.uk wrote:
>> I wasn't aware of this issue (mind you: I am only running motion 4.0
>> - and
>> all nine of my cameras display correctly on <ipaddr>:8180 using
>> Firefox
>> 77.0.1)
>>
>> At the moment I use a simple web page that runs on my server to
>> display all my cameras on a summary page that is currently showing
>> the nine camera feeds simultaneously. The page is built up of a
>> sequence of CSS 'flex-containers'
>> each containing the following structure:
>>
>> <div class="gallery">
>> <div class="desc">Camera Three - Alleyway</div>
>> <a href="Camera3.html"><img src="http://<ipaddr>:8183/"
>> alt="Camera
>> Three"></a>
>> </div>
>>
>> The link to Camera3.html allows you to click on the image of a
>> camera's output and be taken direct to that camera feed. HTML for
>> this page is just a top-and-tail of this:
>>
>> <div class="selected">
>> <div class="desc">Camera Three - Alleyway</div>
>> <a href="index.html"><img src="http://<ipaddr>:8183" alt="Camera
>> Three"></a> </div>
>>
>> The structure is therefore very similar to that of the consolidated /
>> summary page referred to below (http://<IP>:8180). Am I likely to
>> run into this issue if I upgrade to 4.2 if it's claimed this is a
>> Browser limitation?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rmbusy <rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: 15 June 2020 17:02
>> To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Motion-user] firefox does not load >6 "img src' from
>> motion default page
>>
>> The issue is not with the individual streams, it's with the
>> consolidated / summary page that shows all cameras as pseudo
>> thumbnails (http://<IP>:8180).
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rob.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/15/20 1:45 AM, tosiara wrote:
>>> Motion has no limitation, it is that your browser prevents making more
>>> than 6 simultaneous connections to the same server If you run all
>>> motion streams on different ports - it will only count as 1 connection
>>> per server and port. If all your streams reside on the same port, like
>>> motion:8081/1/stream and motion:8081/2/stream - the browser will start
>>> count them
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:17 AM rmbusy <rmbusy+mot...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> That is really not an acceptable solution. Not everyone uses a
>>>> browser that can be modified in that way. I use several different
>>>> browsers, on multiple different devices, and not all have the option
>>>> to make changes like adjusting the max persistent connections.
>>>>
>>>> I've ended up regressing to version 4.1.1 to get around the issue,
>>>> and now I'm looking into Zoneminder (it seems to use more CPU, and
>>>> I'm pushing the limits of the current machine now with Motion).
>>>>
>>>> Is there some reason this limitation was added starting with Motion
>>>> 4.2?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rob.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/14/20 11:07 AM, tosiara wrote:
>>>>> Adjust your Firefox setting in about:config
>>>>>
>>>>> network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:10 PM csspcmotion
>>>>> <mot...@curtissystemssoftware.com> wrote:
>>>>>> i adding a few more cameras ... now firefox (ver 77.0) when
>>>>>> browsing default
>>>>>>
>>>>>> page at localhost:/8080 does not load more than 6 camera streams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in motion ... what adjustments can be made to overcome this issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Motion-user mailing list
>>>>>> Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user
>>>>>> https://motion-project.github.io/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unsubscribe:
>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/motion-user
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