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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Motion 4.3.1 + WSL (prismb...@gmail.com)
   2. Re: Motion 4.3.1 + WSL (Dave Howorth)
   3. Re: Motion 4.3.1 + WSL (John Laurence Poole)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:58:38 -0700
From: prismb...@gmail.com
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion 4.3.1 + WSL
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Hi Mike,

None of my stuff is anywhere but there are plenty of github sites with
Python Object Detection engines and AI scripts. Just google for them...

Here are a few:
https://github.com/ultralytics/yolov5
https://github.com/AlexeyAB/darknet
https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/
https://github.com/OlafenwaMoses/ImageAI
https://towardsdatascience.com/object-detection-with-less-than-10-lines-of-code-using-python-2d28eebc5b11
https://github.com/arunponnusamy/cvlib

With best regards,
Bob







On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> Thanks for sharing. Is there any of this up on github or other types of
> sharing sites? I, for one, would like to see the python script for AI
> processing. I've been looking to bring this into my setup for some time.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:54 PM <prismb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> First my background: I am a retired IT Engineer who worked for a very
>> large company that you have heard of and I have years of programming and
>> server administration experience on Unix, Linux and Windows.
>>
>> I now work on things that make my life better and with that in mind, I
>> solve problems related to that. A home security system is important to me
>> and I give it a lot of daily attention. I have used Blue Iris 4 & 5
>> extensively and wrote a lot of BI Json tools to automate and extract data
>> to assist with AI implementation. I have tried and used a lot of Object
>> Detection "engines" (rekognition, ImageAI, Darknet - Yolov3 and Yolov4,
>> Opencv and DeepStack) with the purpose of providing me with videos that
>> only contain "persons or cars" on two of the seven cameras that I have
>> running.
>>
>> I switched from BI to motion because of primarily two issues, CPU usage
>> and movie generation. I run everything on a Inspiron 7559 laptop quad core
>> machine with 2 SSD drives. Basically I wanted to emulate everything I liked
>> about BI with the latest version of Motion running in a WSL environment.
>>
>> The Tools:
>> - WSL 1 (Ubuntu)
>> - Motion 4.3.1 providing video and audio (I use CURL with on_event_start
>> and on_event_end to create a MP3)
>> - Motion 4.3.1 Web Interface. This works very well for me when configured
>> properly.
>> - Python3 for archiving and storage of videos and audio files with a
>> folder quota.
>> - Python3 for cleanup of videos and images.
>> - Python3 for automated Email, SMS notifications and AI processing of
>> images generated by Motion. The notifications contain a link to the google
>> drive folder that contains the AI chosen videos. I had written this for use
>> with BI a while ago...
>> - Google Drive Sync and Backup to automatically upload videos identified
>> as having persons or cars in certain locations. I was using this with BI
>> too.
>> - Windows 10 Explorer as a "clips" viewer. With its ability to show
>> "large icons" and auto-refresh of a folder it makes a very good clips
>> viewer interface.
>> - VLC for playback of videos.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 5:53 PM John Laurence Poole <jlpool...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> primsbox1 - You seem to have approached managing video surveillance
>>> cameras using a complete open source tool chain to provide the essence of
>>> managing video feeds.  Would you be willing to share a bit more about your
>>> tool chain and what you are accomplishing with it.
>>>
>>> I've been approaching video surveillance from the bottom up... first
>>> with Scott Lamb's moonfire-nvr
>>> <https://github.com/scottlamb/moonfire-nvr> which accumulates and
>>> aggregates raw video (no audio at this point) and makes it a breeze to
>>> extract whatever segments.  Scott's done a first class job.  I'm monitoring
>>> this motion project as my next steps are accumulating and managing events
>>> my Reolink cameras detect and report back, then going into this motion
>>> project to likewise define events meriting attention.  Finally, I will go
>>> into artificial intelligence to analyze the events so at the end what is
>>> brought to my attention are meaningful events and not noise (change of
>>> light, shadows, moving branches).  You obviously are ahead of me,
>>> especially in pursuing Yolov5  (see
>>> https://blog.roboflow.ai/yolov5-is-here/).  I am inspired by what you
>>> have written and hope you might be willing to share a bit more about your
>>> tool chain.  Perhaps you are coming from a robotics standpoint?
>>>
>>> Please feel free to contact me directly.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:59 PM <prismb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi I have been a long, on again, off again time user of motion using
>>>> VM's and I also have Blue Iris 4 & 5. I have switched from BI to motion
>>>> running in the WSL environment and *I just wanted to say how pleased I
>>>> am with the work that's been done developing motion*. With the help of
>>>> some python tools that I have written, VLC, the motion web interface and
>>>> windows 10 Explorer, I don't even have a need for MotionEye (sorry to say).
>>>> I'm also using Yolo V5 with motion to give me those videos that I really
>>>> want to see. Anyway, good job and keep up the good work!
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 20:25:50 +0100
From: Dave Howorth <d...@howorth.org.uk>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion 4.3.1 + WSL
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:53:28 -0700
"John L. Poole" <jlpool...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On that thought, I've had excellent results using Groups.io 
> <https://groups.io> (having migrated a group of over 1,000
> woodworkers form Yahoo Groups) and have just now created a "basic"
> group "*videosurveillance*". I'm pasting in this reply using the
> insert HTML of Thunderbird to subscribe to the group and if you view
> your email in HTML, you should see a subscription box immediately
> below.

Well not in claws-mail without plugins :)

A URL in the text would be more friendly :)

PS the text below seems to indicate the need for an 'invitation'. Is
that correct?

> Subscribe to our group
> 
> I've written the group's description as:
> 
>     A group devoted to using off-the-shelf cameras and coupling them
>     with open source software solutions and alternative hardware for
>     video surveillance.
> 
>     There is a plethora of cameras that may be used for video
>     surveillance, yet the hardware and software solutions sold with
> the products are limiting and often require a large expenditure for a
>     proprietary system in order to expand and/or include features not
>     offered with the default software shipped with the camera.? This
>     group explores using video surveillance cameras such as Reolink,
>     Hikvision and others and providing home-built open source
> solutions to support the cameras.? From the moment of capture, to
> motion detection, and artificial intelligence to process incoming
> video feeds to distill events that would be meaningful to an owner.
> 
> On a personal note, I have had excellent results using four $60
> Reolink cameras on my back alley, one capture is leading to a felony
> I theft charge and another to a "Wanted" for car theft.? Judging from
> the last two responses in this thread, I think there may be several
> people such as myself who have the technical chops and inclination to
> do it yourself rather than buy a black-box solution.
> 
> We'll see.? Please do not hesitate to contact me by email directly
> off this list using subject "videosurveillance group" if you want an 
> invitation to this new Groups.io videosurveillance.
> 
> John



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:52:35 -0700
From: John Laurence Poole <jlpool...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Motion 4.3.1 + WSL
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Yes, an invitation is sent out.  I decided that the group's postings would
be private to members of the group only.  Since security surveillance is
something better not shared with just anyone, I felt it safer for members
not to have anything about their system that they might share be easily
available to the public.  I've found the "invite" method works well at
discouraging spammers.  Dave H., I caused an invitation to be sent to you.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:43 PM Dave Howorth <d...@howorth.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:53:28 -0700
> "John L. Poole" <jlpool...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On that thought, I've had excellent results using Groups.io
> > <https://groups.io> (having migrated a group of over 1,000
> > woodworkers form Yahoo Groups) and have just now created a "basic"
> > group "*videosurveillance*". I'm pasting in this reply using the
> > insert HTML of Thunderbird to subscribe to the group and if you view
> > your email in HTML, you should see a subscription box immediately
> > below.
>
> Well not in claws-mail without plugins :)
>
> A URL in the text would be more friendly :)
>
> PS the text below seems to indicate the need for an 'invitation'. Is
> that correct?
>
> > Subscribe to our group
> >
> > I've written the group's description as:
> >
> >     A group devoted to using off-the-shelf cameras and coupling them
> >     with open source software solutions and alternative hardware for
> >     video surveillance.
> >
> >     There is a plethora of cameras that may be used for video
> >     surveillance, yet the hardware and software solutions sold with
> > the products are limiting and often require a large expenditure for a
> >     proprietary system in order to expand and/or include features not
> >     offered with the default software shipped with the camera.  This
> >     group explores using video surveillance cameras such as Reolink,
> >     Hikvision and others and providing home-built open source
> > solutions to support the cameras.  From the moment of capture, to
> > motion detection, and artificial intelligence to process incoming
> > video feeds to distill events that would be meaningful to an owner.
> >
> > On a personal note, I have had excellent results using four $60
> > Reolink cameras on my back alley, one capture is leading to a felony
> > I theft charge and another to a "Wanted" for car theft.  Judging from
> > the last two responses in this thread, I think there may be several
> > people such as myself who have the technical chops and inclination to
> > do it yourself rather than buy a black-box solution.
> >
> > We'll see.  Please do not hesitate to contact me by email directly
> > off this list using subject "videosurveillance group" if you want an
> > invitation to this new Groups.io videosurveillance.
> >
> > John
>
>
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