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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: View active settings? (Steve)
   2. Re: Reliable system (Andr? H?nsel)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:34:42 -0600
From: Steve <sch...@msn.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] View active settings?
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Thanks, MrDave. I didn't get what I want with setup_mode but it didn't 
occur to me to change log_level. D'oh!

On 9/13/20 11:06 AM, MrDave wrote:
> I believe you are looking for the "setup_mode" option.? Also specify 
> the log level at INF or higher to see the threshold values.
>
> Dave
>
> On 9/12/2020 6:34 PM, Steve wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all. There seems to be no way to view the tuned numbers. I'm aware 
>> of the urls to see lots of info but it doesn't have, for instance, 
>> the actual threshold value when threshold_tune is on. Am I missing 
>> some inside info?
>>
>> TIA
>>




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 22:17:21 +0200
From: Andr? H?nsel <an...@webkr.de>
To: "'Motion discussion list'" <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Reliable system
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Those mosquitoes look illuminated in your images. You?ll get this when your IR 
lights are too close to the cameras. Move them further away. If the cameras 
have IR LEDs built in, turn them off, there should be an option in the admin 
interface. If there isn?t, take some side cutters to the cables, the LEDs are 
usually on a separate board.

 

From: Bau Dev [mailto:baudev.cont...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sonntag, 13. September 2020 21:50
To: Motion discussion list <Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Motion-user] Reliable system

 

Hello to all,

If I allow myself to write here it is to have your ideas and feedback on 
motion. I've been using it for several months now but I can't get the desired 
result.
I have installed my alarm system (outdoor cameras, indoor cameras, 433Mhz 
infrared detectors, siren, backup power supply, GSM shield and so on).
I would like to have the most functional system possible. It is not conceivable 
to trigger the siren several times during the night for false positives ! But 
on the other hand, this siren must be triggered automatically during an 
intrusion. I can't keep my phone on all night to check what's going on.

Today, in this alarm system I use among others a raspberry pi 3b+ with motion 
(for the 4 outdoor cameras). However I have some false positives that I can't 
avoid: mosquitoes that spend the night very close, water drops at night when it 
rains etc.. At night when it rains I can reach up to 200 false positives. 
During the day, between 0 and 2 false positives. With so little reliability, I 
even managed to turn off the outside cameras finally...
Here are the images of some false detections.

 












By varying the different parameters I can't get a correct system. I set a 
reasonable threshold (low enough to detect a human movement and high enough not 
to constantly have false positives). But a spider passing in front of the 
camera is finally impossible not to detect with the threshold (even with the 
threshold_maximum) ...
I also activated the smart filter. It allows to avoid the movements of grasses, 
trees and so on.
I think it's mandatory to add a human shape detection algorithm, don't you? 
If so, do you know any that have a reasonable execution time? Indeed, all the 
ones I tried take more than 30 sec to identify a human on a single image! 
(Obvious given the CPU of a raspberry). And does a USB dungle really worth it?

On the other hand, taking a step back, I find that very few home security 
companies offer outdoor cameras. Or they are cameras you have to install 
yourself and therefore the feedback seems disappointing. Maybe that's a sign? 
Maybe we should only consider filming with outdoor cameras in order to have 
different angles in case of indoor intrusions (identified by infrared sensors 
which are more reliable)?

What do you think about this?
How do you do it? 

Thank you in advance for your ideas/feedback.

 

Baudev

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