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Today's Topics:
1. Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC (Rainer)
2. Re: Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC (Jack Christensen)
3. Re: Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC (Barry Martin)
4. Re: Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC (David Powell)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 17:39:42 -0400
From: Rainer <feyerpictu...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Motion-user] Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC
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Hi All,
first off - I know Virtual Machines are a setup separating OS from base
OS, but my knowledge about VM kinda stops there.
I have been using a separate PC (Intel i5) to run motion, mainly for
trial and error.
Now that I think the setup is running well, I am wondering which option
to choose:
1) continue separate PC, though it is a 3rd box in my office with cables
and monitor share (KVM) etc
2) Install on my main PC (Mint 20.1, Intel i7).
3) Run on my main PC in a separate VM?
I realize that, if VM is the answer, I am opening a Pandora's Box to
learn VM, but I have no problem doing the research if I know it's a good
option
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
TY in advance,
Rainer
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 20:01:22 -0400
From: Jack Christensen <christensen.jac...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC
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I've been using VirtualBox to run Windows and occasionally other Linux
OS as guests under Mint 20.1 for the better part of a year. It works
amazingly well, is easy to set up, and the learning curve is pretty
gentle. However, none of the guests (nor the host system) are up full
time. I use Windows a couple times a week for one or two applications.
Having said that, without thinking it through very much, it would seem
like a Linux guest just for motion under a Linux host system might just
be an unnecessary layer of complexity. Perhaps a case could be made,
depending on the environment and requirements.
A good intro to VirtualBox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWmD8obq4eQ
On 6/3/21 5:39 PM, Rainer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> first off - I know Virtual Machines are a setup separating OS from
> base OS, but my knowledge about VM kinda stops there.
>
> I have been using a separate PC (Intel i5) to run motion, mainly for
> trial and error.
>
> Now that I think the setup is running well, I am wondering which
> option to choose:
>
> 1) continue separate PC, though it is a 3rd box in my office with
> cables and monitor share (KVM) etc
>
> 2) Install on my main PC (Mint 20.1, Intel i7).
>
> 3) Run on my main PC in a separate VM?
>
> I realize that, if VM is the answer, I am opening a Pandora's Box to
> learn VM, but I have no problem doing the research if I know it's a
> good option
>
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> TY in advance,
> Rainer
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 19:49:34 -0500
From: Barry Martin <barry3mar...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC
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Hi Rainer!
To sort of detail on the VM, go with Oracle?s VirtualBox (with the
Additional Option ? it?s not really an option for what you wish to do).
One ?problem? is every time you boot your Virtual Machine will need to
remember to turn on the USB pull-down to pass your cameras through to
the VM. The cameras (I?m assuming they?re USB) are then seen by the VM
but not available to the main OS machine.
An option which may be better is to use VNC ? Virtual Networking
(www.RealVNC.com <http://www.RealVNC.com/>). Here I use my machine, open
VNC, click the remote machine I want, and essentially my keyboard and
mouse is running on the remote machine. I can have the remote machine to
one side of my monitor, a local project (LibreOffice, Firefox) on the
other, and go between the two ? essentially two windows.
Have Fun!
Barry
On 6/3/21 4:39 PM, Rainer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> first off - I know Virtual Machines are a setup separating OS from
> base OS, but my knowledge about VM kinda stops there.
>
> I have been using a separate PC (Intel i5) to run motion, mainly for
> trial and error.
>
> Now that I think the setup is running well, I am wondering which
> option to choose:
>
> 1) continue separate PC, though it is a 3rd box in my office with
> cables and monitor share (KVM) etc
>
> 2) Install on my main PC (Mint 20.1, Intel i7).
>
> 3) Run on my main PC in a separate VM?
>
> I realize that, if VM is the answer, I am opening a Pandora's Box to
> learn VM, but I have no problem doing the research if I know it's a
> good option
>
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> TY in advance,
> Rainer
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 20:56:03 -0500
From: David Powell <da...@depowell.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>, Barry
Martin <barry3mar...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Separate PC vs VM vs using common use PC
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I run mine on a headless Raspberry Pi 3b+, which is always on. Along
with Motion (7 cameras), that same Pi runs several other things
including a web server and a database server.? As long as I keep the
frame rate reasonable (3 or 4 fps) everything works fine.
dp
On 6/3/21 7:49 PM, Barry Martin wrote:
>
>
> Hi Rainer!
>
>
> To sort of detail on the VM, go with Oracle?s VirtualBox (with the
> Additional Option ? it?s not really an option for what you wish to
> do). One ?problem? is every time you boot your Virtual Machine will
> need to remember to turn on the USB pull-down to pass your cameras
> through to the VM. The cameras (I?m assuming they?re USB) are then
> seen by the VM but not available to the main OS machine.
>
>
> An option which may be better is to use VNC ? Virtual Networking
> (www.RealVNC.com <http://www.RealVNC.com/>). Here I use my machine,
> open VNC, click the remote machine I want, and essentially my keyboard
> and mouse is running on the remote machine. I can have the remote
> machine to one side of my monitor, a local project (LibreOffice,
> Firefox) on the other, and go between the two ? essentially two windows.
>
>
> Have Fun!
>
> Barry
>
>
> On 6/3/21 4:39 PM, Rainer wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> first off - I know Virtual Machines are a setup separating OS from
>> base OS, but my knowledge about VM kinda stops there.
>>
>> I have been using a separate PC (Intel i5) to run motion, mainly for
>> trial and error.
>>
>> Now that I think the setup is running well, I am wondering which
>> option to choose:
>>
>> 1) continue separate PC, though it is a 3rd box in my office with
>> cables and monitor share (KVM) etc
>>
>> 2) Install on my main PC (Mint 20.1, Intel i7).
>>
>> 3) Run on my main PC in a separate VM?
>>
>> I realize that, if VM is the answer, I am opening a Pandora's Box to
>> learn VM, but I have no problem doing the research if I know it's a
>> good option
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>> TY in advance,
>> Rainer
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/motion-user
>> https://motion-project.github.io/
>>
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>
>
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