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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Newbie (Mike Wilson)
2. Re: Newbie (Barry Martin)
3. Re: Newbie (MrDave)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 18:09:33 -0400
From: Mike Wilson <knobby2...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Newbie
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I wrote a web front-end that reads the motion DB and displays thumbnails
and movies. I have scripts for image and video capture that create
thumbnails or transcode the video into different formats for different
devices. I assume most everyone does the same, but I'm not entirely sure.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:06 PM Steve G via Motion-user <
motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Thank you very much. I watched a couple of the videos and they gave me a
> lot of information as far as the capabilities. I was looking to have to
> write my own software to do what you're already doing. I prefer not to
> reinvent the wheel. I'm very pleased that you have such good informative
> videos out there.
> It looks very complex which means I may have to write a g u i to handle
> the configuration files for those who don't really know how to work them.
> It looks like I will have a learning curve so I hope you don't mind a few
> questions.
> What I do want to find out that is not going to be covered in the videos
> is about installing this on Fedora. And what kinds of things I may have to
> watch out for to make all the various cameras work. If your software works
> as I think it will, I will be replacing multiple zoneminder installations
> with your software. It looks like you have a web browser interface which is
> perfect.
>
> Does your software also have the ability to view recordings from the web
> browser? Stupid question I know but I didn't notice it anywhere. I I'm sure
> I will find more questions when I get a chance to install this in a test
> environment this week.
>
> Sent from TypeApp <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=16897>
> On Aug 23, 2021, at 13:23, MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is of course the guide but it is pretty long.
>>
>> https://motion-project.github.io/motion_guide.html
>>
>> For an overview, you may want to look at some of the intro videos I
>> created at
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZpOjUMnc-uO3qIyZAD_4lg/videos
>>
>>
>> On 8/23/2021 3:07 PM, Steve G via Motion-user wrote:
>>
>> I'm a newbie with motion. I have not gotten to install it yet. I am
>> coming from having used zoneminder for years and gotten fed up with the
>> bugs and developers that want to be paid to fix their own mistakes. What I
>> need to find is more information about the capabilities of motion and using
>> it on Fedora. Where can I get this? Information on sourceforge is not
>> exactly the greatest.
>>
>> Sent from TypeApp <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=16897>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 19:53:30 -0500
From: Barry Martin <barry3mar...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Newbie
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Steve:
I an an end-user like yourself and have had minimal issues installing
Motion on Raspbian -- I know: isn't Fedora but similar.? Most if not all
of the issues were because I don't have the technical background being a
casual hobbyist and misunderstood a few items.? And I found using Motion
directly I had a lot better control and much less hiccups than when
using a similarly-named utility.
> What I do want to find out that is not going to be covered in the
> videos is about installing this on Fedora. And what kinds of things I
> may have to watch out for to make all the various cameras work.
The 'big trick' is there is a main configuration file called
motion.conf.? Each camera has it's own config file: camera1.conf,
camera2.conf, etc.? motion.conf will control Camera1; I find it easier
to be consistent and always have specific camera configurations in their
own file.
> It looks like you have a web browser interface which is perfect.
It does! Be sure to have each camera have it's own port: 8080, 8081,
etc.? You can 'reuse' the port numbers with a different IP address.? I
also found some of my Raspberry Pi's were outputting an 8081 and others
a 8081/1 according to the browser (Firefox).? I also use CCTV-Viewer to
put the multiple streams on one monitor.
> Does your software also have the ability to view recordings from the
> web browser? Stupid question I know but I didn't notice it anywhere. I
> I'm sure I will find more questions when I get a chance to install
> this in a test environment this week.
Motion will livestream - I've used Firefox, Chromium, and CCTV_Viewer
simultaneously while testing.? At the same time motion-triggered videos
are sent to my storage server in the basement.? The latter is not able
to be live-viewed, of course, but are available generally in less than a
minute.
Hope that helps and I didn't accidentally step on any of the developers'
toes replying.
Barry
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 20:51:21 -0600
From: MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Newbie
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No worries, I have no toes on the mailing list.
I've never used Fedora but I thought it uses RPMs which would mean that
you should be able to go to RPM fusion and get the latest version.? If
you want to build your own from source, it is pretty simple.? Building
instructions for various distros (excluding Fedora) is at this link
along with the instructions.
https://motion-project.github.io/motion_build.html#Preparation_For_Building
So you should be able to just get those same dependencies on Fedora and
then follow the usual autoreconf/ config/make install process.
With respect to viewing recordings via the web interface, as was
indicated below this isn't built in.? I believe a different application
called "MotionEye" has that functionality.? MotionEye wraps around the
Motion application and implements various scripts and interfaces to make
Motion more friendly to those that don't work with config files.? It is
in python 2.7 and can be found by searching github.? (For specific
questions on that interface application, you'll be better off posing
questions to their issue list since many here do not use it and instead
use Motion directly)
MrDave
On 8/23/2021 6:53 PM, Barry Martin wrote:
>
> Steve:
>
> I an an end-user like yourself and have had minimal issues installing
> Motion on Raspbian -- I know: isn't Fedora but similar.? Most if not
> all of the issues were because I don't have the technical background
> being a casual hobbyist and misunderstood a few items.? And I found
> using Motion directly I had a lot better control and much less hiccups
> than when using a similarly-named utility.
>
>
>> What I do want to find out that is not going to be covered in the
>> videos is about installing this on Fedora. And what kinds of things I
>> may have to watch out for to make all the various cameras work.
>
> The 'big trick' is there is a main configuration file called
> motion.conf.? Each camera has it's own config file: camera1.conf,
> camera2.conf, etc.? motion.conf will control Camera1; I find it easier
> to be consistent and always have specific camera configurations in
> their own file.
>
>
>> It looks like you have a web browser interface which is perfect.
>
> It does! Be sure to have each camera have it's own port: 8080, 8081,
> etc.? You can 'reuse' the port numbers with a different IP address.? I
> also found some of my Raspberry Pi's were outputting an 8081 and
> others a 8081/1 according to the browser (Firefox).? I also use
> CCTV-Viewer to put the multiple streams on one monitor.
>
>
>> Does your software also have the ability to view recordings from the
>> web browser? Stupid question I know but I didn't notice it anywhere.
>> I I'm sure I will find more questions when I get a chance to install
>> this in a test environment this week.
>
> Motion will livestream - I've used Firefox, Chromium, and CCTV_Viewer
> simultaneously while testing.? At the same time motion-triggered
> videos are sent to my storage server in the basement.? The latter is
> not able to be live-viewed, of course, but are available generally in
> less than a minute.
>
> Hope that helps and I didn't accidentally step on any of the
> developers' toes replying.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
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