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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Port 8080 only 6 cams shown (Steve)
   2. Re: Port 8080 only 6 cams shown (Ronnie McMaster)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:21:43 -0700
From: Steve <sch...@msn.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Port 8080 only 6 cams shown
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Thank you, MrDave! I looked at the motion.html file and realized that it 
is generated within the Motion executable so I was trying to 
understand/figure out how I could change it without building from source 
after editing the code and that's not something I want to do.

Ronnie, thanks for you work on this and I, too, await your creation(s).

On 2/26/22 10:10, MrDave wrote:
> Ronnie.? I strongly disagree and I would challenge you that you can not 
> write such HTML.? There is a fork button on github where you can put 
> your changes.? If you can not make such changes, then you should not be 
> making such statements.
> 
> There is of course an easy readily available solution to the 6 camera 
> problem without browser revisions but I think I'll wait to see what 
> Ronnie creates.
> 
> MrDave
> 
> 
> On 2/25/2022 11:26 PM, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
>> "Server" Motion is a server application. I use Manjaro. I am sure you 
>> can install an older version from source or set it up on a device that 
>> isn't a rolling release and likely using an older version.
>>
>> If you write an HTML correctly, then it will show all of the cams. It 
>> isn't hard to do, but isn't within the realm of this mailing list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ronnie McMaster
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:08 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Ronnie, I appreciate your response but I'm still at a loss on some
>>     points:
>>
>>     Why is there a limit of 6 in any version?
>>
>>     "Server" has several meanings. Are you saying I should run an older
>>     version of Motion on different hardware? Perhaps you mean a 2nd
>>     instance
>>     of Motion on the same hardware? And Rob said he's running an older
>>     "server" which is different than an older version of Motion in my
>>     mind.
>>     I'll appreciate it if you'll clear this up.
>>
>>     What do you mean by "create an HTML hosting"? HTML doesn't host
>>     anything, it's a language.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 2/25/22 21:28, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
>>     > If using Arch, then you're on version 4.4*, which as Rob said, only
>>     > supports 6 cameras. Other LTS distros are running older
>>     versions. If you
>>     > have more than one server, then you can easily create an HTML
>>     hosting as
>>     > many cams as you want.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > Thanks,
>>     > Ronnie
>>     >
>>     > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com
>>     > <mailto:sch...@msn.com>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >? ? ?First of all, thanks much for filling me in, Rob.
>>     >
>>     >? ? ?That sounds like a dodge for an answer, if you ask me. If it
>>     doesn't
>>     >? ? ?display right on the latest Chromium (and it doesn't) then
>>     that is a
>>     >? ? ?server problem, IMO. Regardless, I'd sure consider it my
>>     problem were I
>>     >? ? ?on team Motion.
>>     >
>>     >? ? ?Any idea what browser settings "need" tweaking to fix it?
>>     >
>>     >? ? ?And you say, "I'm still using server 4.1" I assume you mean
>>     the whole
>>     >? ? ?Motion package is 4.1 on your system, right? I'm on Arch
>>     Linux and the
>>     >? ? ?way they package it there is no separate web server. Maybe
>>     you built
>>     >? ? ?Motion from source code?
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >? ? ?On 2/25/22 19:12, rmbusy wrote:
>>     >? ? ? > Version 4.1 and earlier will display more than 6 cameras
>>     without
>>     >? ? ? > making any changes, on any browser I've tried. With
>>     version 4.2 and
>>     >? ? ? > later, it only displays 6, unless you tweak settings in
>>     every web
>>     >? ? ? > browser you use (if they support tweaking).? I brought up
>>     the issue
>>     >? ? ? > when 4.2 came out, and was told it was the browsers problem.
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? > When I looked at the release notes, I saw they changed
>>     the web
>>     >? ? ?server
>>     >? ? ? > between 4.1 and 4.2, which I attributed to the cause of
>>     the change.
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? > Since I run 9 cameras, I'm still using server 4.1.
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? > --
>>     >? ? ? > Rob.
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? > On 2/25/22 15:55, Steve wrote:
>>     >? ? ? >> Hi, all.
>>     >? ? ? >>
>>     >? ? ? >> What is the trick to getting more than 6 cameras
>>     displayed with the
>>     >? ? ? >> default "All Cameras" display? I have searched the docs
>>     and the web
>>     >? ? ? >> and I've not found any way to limit the number nor
>>     remove any limit
>>     >? ? ? >> but no matter how many cams I have configured and
>>     recording events
>>     >? ? ? >> only 6 show on said page.
>>     >? ? ? >>
>>     >? ? ? >> TIA
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? >
>>     >? ? ? >
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>>     ?--------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>     >? ? ?lot more said than done.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:08:51 -0700
From: Ronnie McMaster <ronnie.mcmas...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Port 8080 only 6 cams shown
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Wait, you're holding back on helping the OP because you can't create a
simple HTML file?

Thanks,
Ronnie


On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 10:11 AM MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ronnie.  I strongly disagree and I would challenge you that you can not
> write such HTML.  There is a fork button on github where you can put your
> changes.  If you can not make such changes, then you should not be making
> such statements.
>
> There is of course an easy readily available solution to the 6 camera
> problem without browser revisions but I think I'll wait to see what Ronnie
> creates.
>
> MrDave
>
>
> On 2/25/2022 11:26 PM, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
>
> "Server" Motion is a server application. I use Manjaro. I am sure you can
> install an older version from source or set it up on a device that isn't a
> rolling release and likely using an older version.
>
> If you write an HTML correctly, then it will show all of the cams. It
> isn't hard to do, but isn't within the realm of this mailing list.
>
> Thanks,
> Ronnie McMaster
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:08 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Ronnie, I appreciate your response but I'm still at a loss on some points:
>>
>> Why is there a limit of 6 in any version?
>>
>> "Server" has several meanings. Are you saying I should run an older
>> version of Motion on different hardware? Perhaps you mean a 2nd instance
>> of Motion on the same hardware? And Rob said he's running an older
>> "server" which is different than an older version of Motion in my mind.
>> I'll appreciate it if you'll clear this up.
>>
>> What do you mean by "create an HTML hosting"? HTML doesn't host
>> anything, it's a language.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/25/22 21:28, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
>> > If using Arch, then you're on version 4.4*, which as Rob said, only
>> > supports 6 cameras. Other LTS distros are running older versions. If
>> you
>> > have more than one server, then you can easily create an HTML hosting
>> as
>> > many cams as you want.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ronnie
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com
>> > <mailto:sch...@msn.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     First of all, thanks much for filling me in, Rob.
>> >
>> >     That sounds like a dodge for an answer, if you ask me. If it doesn't
>> >     display right on the latest Chromium (and it doesn't) then that is a
>> >     server problem, IMO. Regardless, I'd sure consider it my problem
>> were I
>> >     on team Motion.
>> >
>> >     Any idea what browser settings "need" tweaking to fix it?
>> >
>> >     And you say, "I'm still using server 4.1" I assume you mean the
>> whole
>> >     Motion package is 4.1 on your system, right? I'm on Arch Linux and
>> the
>> >     way they package it there is no separate web server. Maybe you built
>> >     Motion from source code?
>> >
>> >
>> >     On 2/25/22 19:12, rmbusy wrote:
>> >      > Version 4.1 and earlier will display more than 6 cameras without
>> >      > making any changes, on any browser I've tried.  With version 4.2
>> and
>> >      > later, it only displays 6, unless you tweak settings in every web
>> >      > browser you use (if they support tweaking).  I brought up the
>> issue
>> >      > when 4.2 came out, and was told it was the browsers problem.
>> >      >
>> >      > When I looked at the release notes, I saw they changed the web
>> >     server
>> >      > between 4.1 and 4.2, which I attributed to the cause of the
>> change.
>> >      >
>> >      > Since I run 9 cameras, I'm still using server 4.1.
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > --
>> >      > Rob.
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > On 2/25/22 15:55, Steve wrote:
>> >      >> Hi, all.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> What is the trick to getting more than 6 cameras displayed with
>> the
>> >      >> default "All Cameras" display? I have searched the docs and the
>> web
>> >      >> and I've not found any way to limit the number nor remove any
>> limit
>> >      >> but no matter how many cams I have configured and recording
>> events
>> >      >> only 6 show on said page.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> TIA
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > _______________________________________________
>> >      > Motion-user mailing list
>> >      > Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >     <mailto:Motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
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>> >     sch...@msn.com <mailto:sch...@msn.com>       there will have been a
>> >     lot more said than done.
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