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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Port 8080 only 6 cams shown (Steve)
2. Re: Port 8080 only 6 cams shown (Dave Howorth)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:33:17 -0700
From: Steve <sch...@msn.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Port 8080 only 6 cams shown
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Ah, now I understand! I tried that initially with my Rpi Zero W cams but
running Motion overloaded them so I resorted to feeding each with
mjpeg-streamer to a central box running Motion. And 3 of my cams are
Reolinks so there is no option to run Motion on them at all.
Thanks, Ronnie!
On 2/26/22 12:26, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
> @Steve, I didn't edit the HTML file in Motion. I use a simple HTML file
> on my system that is set as my home page?in the browser. It is no
> different than creating one with x number of pictures. The caveat that I
> think you and Dave are missing is that each of my cameras is
> connected?to its own device running?a Motion server.
>
> Here's an example of one line for one camera;
> <img src="http://192.168.1.2:8081 <http://192.168.1.2:8081>"
> height="270" width="480" border="0" alt="Offline" />
>
> Again, I built my HTML from?scratch and use it as the default page when
> opening my browsers and I do not make any changes to the Motion package,
> nor browser configs to make them work.
>
> Thanks,
> Ronnie
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 10:37 AM Steve <sch...@msn.com
> <mailto:sch...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you, MrDave! I looked at the motion.html file and realized
> that it
> is generated within the Motion executable so I was trying to
> understand/figure out how I could change it without building from
> source
> after editing the code and that's not something I want to do.
>
> Ronnie, thanks for you work on this and I, too, await your creation(s).
>
> On 2/26/22 10:10, MrDave wrote:
> > Ronnie.? I strongly disagree and I would challenge you that you
> can not
> > write such HTML.? There is a fork button on github where you can put
> > your changes.? If you can not make such changes, then you should
> not be
> > making such statements.
> >
> > There is of course an easy readily available solution to the 6
> camera
> > problem without browser revisions but I think I'll wait to see what
> > Ronnie creates.
> >
> > MrDave
> >
> >
> > On 2/25/2022 11:26 PM, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
> >> "Server" Motion is a server application. I use Manjaro. I am
> sure you
> >> can install an older version from source or set it up on a
> device that
> >> isn't a rolling release and likely using an older version.
> >>
> >> If you write an HTML correctly, then it will show all of the
> cams. It
> >> isn't hard to do, but isn't within the realm of this mailing list.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ronnie McMaster
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:08 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com
> <mailto:sch...@msn.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>? ? ?Ronnie, I appreciate your response but I'm still at a loss
> on some
> >>? ? ?points:
> >>
> >>? ? ?Why is there a limit of 6 in any version?
> >>
> >>? ? ?"Server" has several meanings. Are you saying I should run
> an older
> >>? ? ?version of Motion on different hardware? Perhaps you mean a 2nd
> >>? ? ?instance
> >>? ? ?of Motion on the same hardware? And Rob said he's running an
> older
> >>? ? ?"server" which is different than an older version of Motion
> in my
> >>? ? ?mind.
> >>? ? ?I'll appreciate it if you'll clear this up.
> >>
> >>? ? ?What do you mean by "create an HTML hosting"? HTML doesn't host
> >>? ? ?anything, it's a language.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>? ? ?On 2/25/22 21:28, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
> >>? ? ?> If using Arch, then you're on version 4.4*, which as Rob
> said, only
> >>? ? ?> supports 6 cameras. Other LTS distros are running older
> >>? ? ?versions. If you
> >>? ? ?> have more than one server, then you can easily create an HTML
> >>? ? ?hosting as
> >>? ? ?> many cams as you want.
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?> Thanks,
> >>? ? ?> Ronnie
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com
> <mailto:sch...@msn.com>
> >>? ? ?> <mailto:sch...@msn.com <mailto:sch...@msn.com>>> wrote:
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?First of all, thanks much for filling me in, Rob.
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?That sounds like a dodge for an answer, if you ask me.
> If it
> >>? ? ?doesn't
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?display right on the latest Chromium (and it doesn't) then
> >>? ? ?that is a
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?server problem, IMO. Regardless, I'd sure consider it my
> >>? ? ?problem were I
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?on team Motion.
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?Any idea what browser settings "need" tweaking to fix it?
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?And you say, "I'm still using server 4.1" I assume you
> mean
> >>? ? ?the whole
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?Motion package is 4.1 on your system, right? I'm on Arch
> >>? ? ?Linux and the
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?way they package it there is no separate web server. Maybe
> >>? ? ?you built
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?Motion from source code?
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?On 2/25/22 19:12, rmbusy wrote:
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > Version 4.1 and earlier will display more than 6
> cameras
> >>? ? ?without
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > making any changes, on any browser I've tried. With
> >>? ? ?version 4.2 and
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > later, it only displays 6, unless you tweak settings in
> >>? ? ?every web
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > browser you use (if they support tweaking).? I
> brought up
> >>? ? ?the issue
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > when 4.2 came out, and was told it was the browsers
> problem.
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > When I looked at the release notes, I saw they changed
> >>? ? ?the web
> >>? ? ?>? ? ?server
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > between 4.1 and 4.2, which I attributed to the cause of
> >>? ? ?the change.
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > Since I run 9 cameras, I'm still using server 4.1.
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > --
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > Rob.
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? > On 2/25/22 15:55, Steve wrote:
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> Hi, all.
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> What is the trick to getting more than 6 cameras
> >>? ? ?displayed with the
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> default "All Cameras" display? I have searched the
> docs
> >>? ? ?and the web
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> and I've not found any way to limit the number nor
> >>? ? ?remove any limit
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> but no matter how many cams I have configured and
> >>? ? ?recording events
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> only 6 show on said page.
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >>
> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >> TIA
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> >>? ? ?>? ? ? >
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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:52:25 +0000
From: Dave Howorth <d...@howorth.org.uk>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Port 8080 only 6 cams shown
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:08:51 -0700
Ronnie McMaster <ronnie.mcmas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait, you're holding back on helping the OP because you can't create a
> simple HTML file?
No, he's calling your bluff :)
> Thanks,
> Ronnie
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 10:11 AM MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ronnie. I strongly disagree and I would challenge you that you can
> > not write such HTML. There is a fork button on github where you
> > can put your changes. If you can not make such changes, then you
> > should not be making such statements.
> >
> > There is of course an easy readily available solution to the 6
> > camera problem without browser revisions but I think I'll wait to
> > see what Ronnie creates.
> >
> > MrDave
> >
> >
> > On 2/25/2022 11:26 PM, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
> >
> > "Server" Motion is a server application. I use Manjaro. I am sure
> > you can install an older version from source or set it up on a
> > device that isn't a rolling release and likely using an older
> > version.
> >
> > If you write an HTML correctly, then it will show all of the cams.
> > It isn't hard to do, but isn't within the realm of this mailing
> > list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ronnie McMaster
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:08 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ronnie, I appreciate your response but I'm still at a loss on some
> >> points:
> >>
> >> Why is there a limit of 6 in any version?
> >>
> >> "Server" has several meanings. Are you saying I should run an older
> >> version of Motion on different hardware? Perhaps you mean a 2nd
> >> instance of Motion on the same hardware? And Rob said he's running
> >> an older "server" which is different than an older version of
> >> Motion in my mind. I'll appreciate it if you'll clear this up.
> >>
> >> What do you mean by "create an HTML hosting"? HTML doesn't host
> >> anything, it's a language.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/25/22 21:28, Ronnie McMaster wrote:
> >> > If using Arch, then you're on version 4.4*, which as Rob said,
> >> > only supports 6 cameras. Other LTS distros are running older
> >> > versions. If
> >> you
> >> > have more than one server, then you can easily create an HTML
> >> > hosting
> >> as
> >> > many cams as you want.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Ronnie
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 7:53 PM Steve <sch...@msn.com
> >> > <mailto:sch...@msn.com>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > First of all, thanks much for filling me in, Rob.
> >> >
> >> > That sounds like a dodge for an answer, if you ask me. If it
> >> > doesn't display right on the latest Chromium (and it doesn't)
> >> > then that is a server problem, IMO. Regardless, I'd sure
> >> > consider it my problem
> >> were I
> >> > on team Motion.
> >> >
> >> > Any idea what browser settings "need" tweaking to fix it?
> >> >
> >> > And you say, "I'm still using server 4.1" I assume you mean
> >> > the
> >> whole
> >> > Motion package is 4.1 on your system, right? I'm on Arch
> >> > Linux and
> >> the
> >> > way they package it there is no separate web server. Maybe
> >> > you built Motion from source code?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2/25/22 19:12, rmbusy wrote:
> >> > > Version 4.1 and earlier will display more than 6 cameras
> >> > > without making any changes, on any browser I've tried.
> >> > > With version 4.2
> >> and
> >> > > later, it only displays 6, unless you tweak settings in
> >> > > every web browser you use (if they support tweaking). I
> >> > > brought up the
> >> issue
> >> > > when 4.2 came out, and was told it was the browsers
> >> > > problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > When I looked at the release notes, I saw they changed
> >> > > the web
> >> > server
> >> > > between 4.1 and 4.2, which I attributed to the cause of
> >> > > the
> >> change.
> >> > >
> >> > > Since I run 9 cameras, I'm still using server 4.1.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Rob.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 2/25/22 15:55, Steve wrote:
> >> > >> Hi, all.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What is the trick to getting more than 6 cameras
> >> > >> displayed with
> >> the
> >> > >> default "All Cameras" display? I have searched the docs
> >> > >> and the
> >> web
> >> > >> and I've not found any way to limit the number nor
> >> > >> remove any
> >> limit
> >> > >> but no matter how many cams I have configured and
> >> > >> recording
> >> events
> >> > >> only 6 show on said page.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> TIA
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > sch...@msn.com <mailto:sch...@msn.com> there will have
> >> > been a lot more said than done.
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