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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Live video not displayed (Dave Howorth)
   2. Re: Live video not displayed (Barry Martin)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:44:11 +0100
From: Dave Howorth <d...@howorth.org.uk>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Live video not displayed
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:08:18 +0200
Ugo Bottari <ugo.bott...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I don't know if I can insert an image that represents in miniature
> what you should see
> [image: HomePageMiniatura.jpg]
> The large square (which in this miniature shows the inside of a great
> tit's nest, in black and white) appears to some friends to be
> completely empty, white.

I don't think you can attach an image on this mailing list. I haven't
received one.

But I think both Barry and I understood what you meant and we are one
example of each type! I can see the videos :) and Barry can't :(

As to exactly what the differences are between our two setups and what
you or Barry need to do to enable him to see them, I can't say on the
basis of the information I presently have.

> Il giorno mar 29 mar 2022 alle ore 18:14 Dave Howorth
> <d...@howorth.org.uk> ha scritto:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:30:15 -0500
> > Barry Martin <barry3mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > > I am told that someone does not view the live videos of the 2
> > > > webcams (a third provides only a still image) available on the
> > > > page: http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido
> > > > I can easily see this video live and so do some friends with
> > > > whom I am in contact.
> > > > Others, on the other hand, tell me they see a large (640x480
> > > > pixel) white space and not even the usual written, after a few
> > > > seconds, that the video is not available.
> > > > Could it depend on a motion setting (and which one?)
> > > > That oversees the video stream and the recording of MP4 files
> > > > available at the bottom of the page?  
> > >
> > > FWIW I tried using Firefox.  I see the four birds at the top with
> > > a large boarded box under -- white inside.  Clicking on the birds
> > > does have indication of going to a new page (address field webcam
> > > 1 - 2 - 3...) but the overall page view remains the same.  
> >
> > FWIW, I too use Firefox and see the four birds at the top with a
> > large frame labelled Nido N. 1 underneath. That frame contains
> > apparently live video - to judge from the timestamp - but is
> > slightly clipped and the entire timestamp is only visible if I
> > select 'Show only this frame'. The frame is from a different
> > domain, and if I look at the Tools/Web Developer/Console I see a
> > lot of cross-domain errors and stylesheet security errors etc. So
> > it might be worth check people's browser security settings as well
> > as the brand and version of browser they are using.
> >  
> > > For 'fun' I tried adding a few common port numbers at the end but
> > > everything remained the same.
> > >
> > > In the chart at the bottom clicking on 'Vedi' does give me nice
> > > videos, so that part is working.
> > >
> > > Not sure what sort of help this gives you -- compare and what's
> > > the difference between what is working and what is not.  FWIW I
> > > use CCTV-Viewer for my live-stream monitoring.  All three cameras
> > > require the port number, two of the three also require the camera
> > > ID:
> > >
> > >      <IP_Address>:8081/101
> > >
> > >      <IP_Address>:8082
> > >
> > >      <IP_Address>:8081/1
> > >
> > > Theoretically each was a clone of the common source card.
> > > (Whatever: it works!)  Just offering options to check.
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Barry
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:07:43 -0500
From: Barry Martin <barry3mar...@gmail.com>
To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Live video not displayed
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On 3/29/22 13:44, Dave Howorth wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:08:18 +0200
> Ugo Bottari<ugo.bott...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>>   I don't know if I can insert an image that represents in miniature
>> what you should see
>> [image: HomePageMiniatura.jpg]
>> The large square (which in this miniature shows the inside of a great
>> tit's nest, in black and white) appears to some friends to be
>> completely empty, white.
> I don't think you can attach an image on this mailing list. I haven't
> received one.
>
> But I think both Barry and I understood what you meant and we are one
> example of each type! I can see the videos :) and Barry can't :(
>
> As to exactly what the differences are between our two setups and what
> you or Barry need to do to enable him to see them, I can't say on the
> basis of the information I presently have.


Agh! I? accidentally sent my reply only to Ugo rather than the list.? 
BTW, I did see the inserted image the original reply to me.

This is my message to Ugo:


> I don't know if I can insert an image that represents in miniature 
> what you should see
> HomePageMiniatura.jpg
> The large square (which in this miniature shows the inside of a great 
> tit's nest, in black and white) appears to some friends to be 
> completely empty, white.


Your post did show properly! :)?? With Firefox I saw the four birds at 
the top (for selecting camera), but where the large black and white 
image is I saw only white.

Ah! may have discovered something!? Firefox has two modes: regular and 
private.? Just tried now by copying 
http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido to private viewing.? This time the 
the error "having troubles finding the site" (paraphrasing).? No!

Next I tried clicking the link from your original message: hi bird!? 
Getting a live stream in black and white.? The site the click went to is 
http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/nido2.asp ==> big difference!


OK: first bird: 
http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=1

second bird: http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=1

third bird: http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=3

fourth bird: http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=3


And halfway though that listing I realized Bird 1 and Bird 2 went to the 
same site, just two photos to distinguish the "he-bird" from the 
"she-bird" as my Mother would say.


The "Panorama Contesto" link also works: 
http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=2 -- though 
a freeze frame (03/29/2022 19:30:01)? -- refresh didn't update the time.


OK., this is weird:

 ??? Firefox 'regular' option: 
http://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=3 -- I get 
the live stream.

 ??? Firefox Private option: 
https://www.lalpinistavirtuale.it/nido/Nido2.asp?QualeWebcam=3 -- I get 
the white block where the livestream should be.

The webaddress is the same but how Firefox interprets something 
something blocks the live stream.? No idea what that something is, but 
maybe someone else knows.

Barry

(end my message to Ugo)















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