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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 09:32:54 +0200
From: tosiara <tosi...@gmail.com>
To: Motion discussion list <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Can't pause motion detection at startup
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If you are able to reproduce an immediate event when starting, please, try
to run motion in setup mode and record motion movies. You should see in the
log how many changed pixels triggered the event, and on the movies you
would see which ones

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:41 PM Henry B. Tindall Jr. <he...@linux-meister.com>
wrote:

> Perhaps we're overlooking the Elephant in the room... Maybe we should be
> addressing the "when I startup motion there's always an immediate event
> detected" issue, which would preclude the work-around of starting mosion
> paused... ;)
>
>
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>    1. Re: Can't pause motion detection at startup (MrDave)
>    2. Re: Can't pause motion detection at startup (Postgarage Graz IT)
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> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 07:11:47 -0700
> From: MrDave <motionmrd...@gmail.com> <motionmrd...@gmail.com>
> To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Can't pause motion detection at startup
> Message-ID: <34bc1f68-9bcc-f827-e258-58013ec64...@gmail.com> 
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>
> Thanks for reporting.? The temporary workaround that should work is to
> specify it in the configuration file.? (When it was added as a new
> parameter it ignored the command line option.)
>
> As a side note.....the log also indicates? "Unable to start MHD".? You
> may need a reboot to fix that...or you may be running multiple instances
> of Motion....If Motion continues with the message that it is unable to
> start MHD, there will not be a method to "un-pause" after it starts.?
> (MHD is the web interface.)
>
>
> On 12/6/2022 4:46 AM, tosiara wrote:
>
> Hi, I also reproduced this. Created an issue:
> https://github.com/Motion-Project/motion/issues/1600
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:26 PM Postgarage Graz IT via Motion-user 
> <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>     Hello!
>
>     I'm having the problem, that when I startup motion there's always an
>     immediate event detected.
>     So I want to start motion with the "-m" parameter but it's either
>     ignored or I completely missunderstand its usage.
>
>     I installed motion by using the
>     pi_bullseye_motion_4.5.0-1_armhf.deb packages from the release
>     page and
>     I'm running it on Raspbian 11.5.
>
>     Thanks in advance
>
>
>     pi@minerva:~$ motion -n -m
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] conf_load: Processing thread 0 - config file
>     /etc/motion/motion.conf
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_startup: Logging to syslog
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_strm_ntc: Started camera 0 stream on
>     port 8081
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Starting webcontrol on
>     port 8080
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Unable to start MHD
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ENC] ffmpeg_global_init: ffmpeg libavcodec version
>     58.91.100 libavformat version 58.45.100
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_startup: Using log type (ALL) log
>     level (NTC)
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_strm: Starting all camera
>     streams on
>     port 8081
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_strm_ntc: Started camera 0 stream on
>     port 8081
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Starting webcontrol on
>     port 8080
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Unable to start MHD
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ENC] ffmpeg_global_init: ffmpeg libavcodec version
>     58.91.100 libavformat version 58.45.100
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] translate_init: Language: English
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_start_thread: Camera ID: 0 is from
>     /etc/motion/motion.conf
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_start_thread: Camera ID: 0 Camera Name:
>     (null) Service: rtsp:
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] main: Waiting for threads to finish, pid: 6332
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] motion_init: Camera 0 started: motion
>     detection Enabled
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [VID] vid_start: Opening Netcam RTSP
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [NET] motion_init: Substream not available. Image sizes
>     not modulo 16.
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] image_ring_resize: Resizing pre_capture buffer
>     to 1
>     items
>     [2:nc2] [NTC] [NET] netcam_rtsp_handler: norm: Camera handler
>     thread [2]
>     started
>     [2:nc2] [NTC] [NET] netcam_rtsp_connect: norm: Camera ((null))
>     connected
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] image_ring_resize: Resizing pre_capture buffer
>     to 4
>     items
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] motion_detected: Motion detected - starting
>     event 1.
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [EVT] event_newfile: Writing movie to file:
>     /home/pi/motion-images/0-01-2022-12-06-11-37-09.mkv
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [EVT] event_newfile: Writing image to file:
>     /home/pi/motion-images/2022-12-06-11-37-11-00.jpg
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] mlp_actions: End of event 1
>     ^C[1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] motion_loop: Thread exiting
>     [1:ml1] [NTC] [NET] netcam_rtsp_cleanup: Normal resolution: Shut down
>     complete.
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] main: Threads finished
>     [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] main: Motion terminating
>
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> From: Postgarage Graz IT <i...@postgarage.at> <i...@postgarage.at>
> To: motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Motion-user] Can't pause motion detection at startup
> Message-ID: <9542e4c0-6744-9da2-fd2e-074c46432...@postgarage.at> 
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> On 12/6/22 15:11, MrDave wrote:
>
> Thanks for reporting.? The temporary workaround that should work is to
> specify it in the configuration file.? (When it was added as a new
> parameter it ignored the command line option.)
>
> Ahh, thanks! That works and solves my problem - it's even better,
> otherwise I would have had to modify how systemd starts the daemon. I
> wasn't aware that I can set it in the config file too.
>
>
>
> As a side note.....the log also indicates? "Unable to start MHD".? You
> may need a reboot to fix that...or you may be running multiple instances
> of Motion....If Motion continues with the message that it is unable to
> start MHD, there will not be a method to "un-pause" after it starts.
> (MHD is the web interface.)
>
> Didn't notice that yet, but it was just an already used port.
>
>
>
> On 12/6/2022 4:46 AM, tosiara wrote:
>
> Hi, I also reproduced this. Created an issue:
> https://github.com/Motion-Project/motion/issues/1600
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:26 PM Postgarage Graz IT via Motion-user 
> <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> <motion-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> ??? Hello!
>
> ??? I'm having the problem, that when I startup motion there's always an
> ??? immediate event detected.
> ??? So I want to start motion with the "-m" parameter but it's either
> ??? ignored or I completely missunderstand its usage.
>
> ??? I installed motion by using the
> ??? pi_bullseye_motion_4.5.0-1_armhf.deb packages from the release
> ??? page and
> ??? I'm running it on Raspbian 11.5.
>
> ??? Thanks in advance
>
>
> ??? pi@minerva:~$ motion -n -m
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] conf_load: Processing thread 0 - config file
> ??? /etc/motion/motion.conf
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_startup: Logging to syslog
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_strm_ntc: Started camera 0 stream on
> ??? port 8081
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Starting webcontrol on
> ??? port 8080
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Unable to start MHD
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ENC] ffmpeg_global_init: ffmpeg libavcodec version
> ??? 58.91.100 libavformat version 58.45.100
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_startup: Using log type (ALL) log
> ??? level (NTC)
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_strm: Starting all camera
> ??? streams on
> ??? port 8081
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_strm_ntc: Started camera 0 stream on
> ??? port 8081
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Starting webcontrol on
> ??? port 8080
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [STR] webu_start_ctrl: Unable to start MHD
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ENC] ffmpeg_global_init: ffmpeg libavcodec version
> ??? 58.91.100 libavformat version 58.45.100
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] translate_init: Language: English
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_start_thread: Camera ID: 0 is from
> ??? /etc/motion/motion.conf
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] motion_start_thread: Camera ID: 0 Camera Name:
> ??? (null) Service: rtsp:
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] main: Waiting for threads to finish, pid: 6332
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] motion_init: Camera 0 started: motion
> ??? detection Enabled
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [VID] vid_start: Opening Netcam RTSP
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [NET] motion_init: Substream not available. Image sizes
> ??? not modulo 16.
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] image_ring_resize: Resizing pre_capture buffer
> ??? to 1
> ??? items
> ??? [2:nc2] [NTC] [NET] netcam_rtsp_handler: norm: Camera handler
> ??? thread [2]
> ??? started
> ??? [2:nc2] [NTC] [NET] netcam_rtsp_connect: norm: Camera ((null))
> ??? connected
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] image_ring_resize: Resizing pre_capture buffer
> ??? to 4
> ??? items
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] motion_detected: Motion detected - starting
> ??? event 1.
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [EVT] event_newfile: Writing movie to file:
> ??? /home/pi/motion-images/0-01-2022-12-06-11-37-09.mkv
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [EVT] event_newfile: Writing image to file:
> ??? /home/pi/motion-images/2022-12-06-11-37-11-00.jpg
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] mlp_actions: End of event 1
> ??? ^C[1:ml1] [NTC] [ALL] motion_loop: Thread exiting
> ??? [1:ml1] [NTC] [NET] netcam_rtsp_cleanup: Normal resolution: Shut down
> ??? complete.
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] main: Threads finished
> ??? [0:motion] [NTC] [ALL] main: Motion terminating
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