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<P>I usually don't respond or get involved with discussion like this, but, 
after two days of reading about this I decided to say something.&nbsp; First of 
all why do some people feel they need to complain about dumb stuff like this on 
here?&nbsp; And it always seem like its the same people too.&nbsp; What 
difference does it make if a bird or birds statues is changed or down 
graded?&nbsp; Does that make birding &nbsp;less fun?&nbsp; If you&nbsp;answer 
yes to that then you need to find a new hobby like gardening or 
something.&nbsp;&nbsp; Like Mike said this is a simply hobby, but, yet there 
always has to be someone out there that has to try and make it complex or 
complain about some dumb thing.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you feel a need to complain find 
some where else to do it and leave this for bird sightings/reports. <BR></P>
<P>Craig</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Michael Hendrickson" <[email protected]>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "MOU" <[email protected]>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: [mou] Birding in Minnesota 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:11:54 -0600 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The reason I responded to Jim Williams thoughts on how birding 
is quite simple is because Jim's thoughts were so negative on MOURC. I want to 
make people on this listserve that are enjoying this thread or watching this 
thread to understand that birding in Minnesota is NOT complex as some may want 
it to be and things going on with MOURC really shouldn't effect the way you 
should enjoy this hobby. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The people who sit on MOURC except one or two people consider 
birding as a hobby rather than a job. They are volunteering to do what is best 
for Minnesota birding. If you don't like how they are doing things than offer 
solutions rather than point the finger. What are your ideas to fix the problem? 
Laura offered an idea and some others have done so too. I would like to hear 
solutions rather than commentary. I personally feel everything is ok. MOURC is 
doing a good job, MOURC is not some "good ol boys" committee. If you want to 
express your opinion than attend one of there meetings! Didn't I already said 
this before? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;My comments on the King Rail, since its being used in arguments 
lately.&nbsp;&nbsp;It has been since 1992 since a King Rail was seen in 
Minnesota. Ok are neighboring states have nesting King Rails,&nbsp;&nbsp;so are 
we to just speculate that King Rails do nest in Minnesota? Is that science? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Also again if King Rails do nest in Minnesota where are the 
records or the sightings to prove they do nest in Minnesota? OHHH its our fault 
because we are NOT birding in the right places. ALL Minnesota birders are NOT 
going to the right places at the right time because IF they were going to the 
right places at the right time they would find King Rails in every large marsh 
in Minnesota!&nbsp;&nbsp;That is so FALSE! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wow I am getting riled up here! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Also this is a solution for those that have issues with MOURC. 
Go to there meetings, email the chair privately about your concerns, go hug a 
MOURC member, or go shake their hand. Do anything other than point fingers 
without giving solutions. I hope these helpful suggestions help shake those 
revengeful feelings away or any vendettas you may feel towards MOURC. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Like I said birdwatching or birding umbrellas over everything in 
Minnesota including the science part. Its a hobby for us all, it shouldn't be 
this complex. Science is ok in birding but to tell MOURC members to stop acting 
like birders and start acting like ornithologists is not a good idea. Why? 
because the majority are just excellent birders and I know only one that has a 
ornithology degree and maybe one other. The rest have different backgrounds and 
are doing the best they can&nbsp;&nbsp; to give an accurate picture of birds in 
Minnesota. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;It really shouldn't be this complex because its really a simple 
hobby for all of us to enjoy. That is all! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Mike Hendrickson 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The MOU field trip guy 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Duluth 
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