Rich: They are both recordings of a Virginia Rail. The second recording (kingvirginia2) almost sounded like a Yellow Rail at first. The taps or clicks were different from what I am use to hearing but in comparing them to the first recording they are both Virginia Rails.
Mike Hendrickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Peet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:46 AM Subject: [mou] King Rail sound Vs Virginia Rail sound? > Please humor a birder here that has never seen a King Rail in MN. > In fact I am not sure on how to differentiate the call between the Virginia > and the King. > > Linked is two files that I had identified as Virginia Rails. Please confirm > they are Virginia and give an indication of the unique part of a King call > that I should listen for when listening to Rails. > > Not a great recording as I did not target this bird and was simply testing a > couple microphones. > recorded 4/18/03, Shurburn WLR, N45.45807, W93.70802, 6:30AM, 30 degrees F, > Overcast, Wind east at 5mph, edge of wetland on auto tour route. I have this > bird calling for 1 hour. > > 285kb download > http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/kingvvirginia1.mp3 > > 712kb download > http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/kingvvirginia2.mp3 > > Rich Peet > > > >From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected], [email protected] > >Subject: [mou] Re: [mou] Accidental? No, we're not kidding (very long) > >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:03:25 EST > > > >Either way, I think that Accidental clearly defines the current status of > >King Rail in Minnesotaâ?"a species which has not been seen since 1992 and > >is likely > >to occur again only at very infrequent intervals. When MORC completed the > >1999 checklist, King Rail had been seen in only three of the last ten > >years, but > >we erred on the side of positivity, and defined this species as Casual. The > >last nesting attempt was in 1983 and the last positive breeding was in > >1976. > >This species has not been Regular since the 1978 edition of our checklist, > >so a > >move to Accidental is not at all unexpected or surprising. What alternative > >status does Russell suggest for King Rail? Casual? Regular? Extirpated? > >Extinct? > >These are the only choices. > > > >Russell acts surprised that King Rail has changed status in the last 20 or > >30 > >years, but think of all the species which have changed significantly in > >that > >amount of time (on the 1978 checklist, House Finch was considered > >Hypothetical, Baird's Sparrow was Regular but is now Accidental, and Lesser > >Black-backed > >Gull did not even occur on the checklist even thought it is now Regular). > > > >Russell claims King Rails may breed in South Dakota, but the current status > >of this species in South Dakota is Accidental (!), with only two breeding > >records, the last in 1974 (Tallman, Swanson and Palmer, 2002). Although > >Russell > >also claims King Rails breed in Iowa and Wisconsin, a quick internet check > >showed > >this species to be both Endangered and Casual in Iowa, and to be rare in > >Wisconsin with Special Concern or "imperiled" breeding status (the current > >Wisconsin Breeding Bird Atlas does not show any confirmed breeding > >reports). Thus, he > >has painted a picture of King Rails breeding all around Minnesota based on > >faulty information. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. > http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > mou-net mailing list > [email protected] > http://cbs.umn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mou-net >
