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As one of the out-of-staters (and semi-annual visitors to MN) who saw the 
Varied Thrush at Manley Olson's home, and benefitted from his help in finding 
the bird, I second his view that conservation of habitat must go hand-in-hand 
with conservation of places to watch birds.  In some respects it is a natural 
marriage -- if we preserve habitats that birds frequent, we will also have a 
place to go se the birds.  But as Manley also says, it is deeper than that.  As 
those who get such pleasure from birds, we have a corresponding responsibility 
to give back, and to help maintain the birds even if the habitat we maintain is 
not, or should not be, readily accessible for watching the birds.  Again, there 
is some self interest in this, in that preserving habitat for  birds may 
ultimately help us to see them, but I think there is an ethical/philosohical 
aspect to it as well.
 
All the best to our birding friends in MN (we come again in early August).
 
Eric Jeffrey
Falls Church, VA
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann and Manley Olson <[email protected]>
To: Alt, Mark <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; MOU Board <[email protected]>; mnbird 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:09:04 -0500
Subject: [mnbird] Re: [mou] MOU has leased land in the Sax Zim Bog Area


I applaud the action of the MOU to lease land in the Sax Zim Bog, 
thereby increasing the access for MOU members in this unique area of 
Minnesota. Given the propensity of land owners to increasingly espouse 
a "this land ain't your land, this land is my land" philosophy, we need 
to find ways to assure that we will be able to look for those birds that 
chose to frequent other than public lands. Working out lease 
arrangements not only helps provide this access but may also help to 
improve relations with local land owners. However we should also 
recognize that we need to be concerned with preserving habitat, even if 
it is not a place where we might actually go to seek birds. This I 
would hope that the MOU and its members would continue to support public 
acquisition of important habitat, even if it is not a place we are 
likely to visit. Not only do we need places where we personally expect to see 
birds,but we need to support the acquisition and 
preservation of wilderness for its own sake. It must be both/and not 
either/or. This is the vision of Thoreau (" In wildness is the 
preservation of the world"), John Muir and Aldo Leopold. In the 
concluding paragraphs of "A Sand County Almanac", Leopold passionately 
argues for the preservation of wilderness for its own sake, not just for 
the use of "trophy-recreationists" as well as trophy hunters. 
 
If we doubt that most of us birders are not in the trophy collection 
business, one needs only to review the data Randy Fredrickson compiled 
on the spending in pursuit of owls. For some of us the trophy was a 
photo, for others a tick on a list. After 45 years of marriage my wife 
is no longer surprised by a trip to Aitkin County to see owls but I 
think she was not quite prepared for at least 150 people from 9 states who came 
to our back yard seeking the Varied Thrush. 
 
So while I encourage the providing, either by lease or purchase, of 
places where we can bird freely, I also encourage us to put some of our 
resources into land acquisition, even if we may never bird there. 
 
Manley Olson 
Falcon Heights 
 
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<DIV>As one of the out-of-staters (and semi-annual visitors to MN) who saw the 
Varied Thrush&nbsp;at Manley Olson's&nbsp;home, and benefitted from his help in 
finding the bird, I second his view that conservation of habitat must go 
hand-in-hand with conservation of places to watch birds.&nbsp; In some respects 
it is a natural marriage -- if we preserve habitats that birds frequent, we 
will also have a place to go se the birds.&nbsp; But as Manley also says, it is 
deeper than that.&nbsp; As those who get such pleasure from birds, we have a 
corresponding responsibility to give back, and to help maintain the birds even 
if the habitat we maintain is not, or should not be, readily accessible for 
watching the birds.&nbsp; Again, there is some self interest in this, in that 
preserving habitat for &nbsp;birds&nbsp;may ultimately help us to see them, but 
I think there is an ethical/philosohical aspect to it as well.</DIV>
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<DIV>All the best to our birding friends in MN (we come again in early 
August).</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric Jeffrey</DIV>
<DIV>Falls Church, VA</DIV>&nbsp;<BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Ann 
and Manley Olson &lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>To: Alt, Mark 
&lt;[email protected]&gt;<BR>Cc: [email protected]; MOU Board 
&lt;[email protected]&gt;; mnbird 
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id=AOLMsgPart_0_1014f64e-64be-4286-959d-cb56182884ee>I applaud the action of 
the MOU to lease land in the Sax Zim Bog,&nbsp;<BR>thereby increasing the 
access for MOU members in this unique area of&nbsp;<BR>Minnesota. Given the 
propensity of land owners to increasingly espouse&nbsp;<BR>a "this land ain't 
your land, this land is my land" philosophy, we need&nbsp;<BR>to find ways to 
assure that we will be able to look for those birds that&nbsp;<BR>chose to 
frequent other than public lands. Working out lease&nbsp;<BR>arrangements not 
only helps provide this access but may also help to&nbsp;<BR>improve relations 
with local land owners. However we should also&nbsp;<BR>recognize that we need 
to be concerned with preserving habitat, even if&nbsp;<BR>it is not a place 
where we might actually go to seek birds. This I&nbsp;<BR>would hope that the 
MOU and its members would continue to support public&nbsp;<BR>acquisition of 
important habitat, even if it is not 
 a place we are&nbsp;<BR>likely to visit. Not only do we need places where we 
personally expect to see birds,but we need to support the acquisition 
and&nbsp;<BR>preservation of wilderness for its own sake. It must be both/and 
not&nbsp;<BR>either/or. This is the vision of Thoreau (" In wildness is 
the&nbsp;<BR>preservation of the world"), John Muir and Aldo Leopold. In 
the&nbsp;<BR>concluding paragraphs of "A Sand County Almanac", Leopold 
passionately&nbsp;<BR>argues for the preservation of wilderness for its own 
sake, not just for&nbsp;<BR>the use of "trophy-recreationists" as well as 
trophy hunters.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>If we doubt that most of us birders are not 
in the trophy collection&nbsp;<BR>business, one needs only to review the data 
Randy Fredrickson compiled&nbsp;<BR>on the spending in pursuit of owls. For 
some of us the trophy was a&nbsp;<BR>photo, for others a tick on a list. After 
45 years of marriage my wife&nbsp;<BR>is no longer surprised by a trip to 
Aitkin Count
 y to see owls but I&nbsp;<BR>think she was not quite prepared for at least 150 
people from 9 states who came to our back yard seeking the Varied 
Thrush.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>So while I encourage the providing, either by lease 
or purchase, of&nbsp;<BR>places where we can bird freely, I also encourage us 
to put some of our&nbsp;<BR>resources into land acquisition, even if we may 
never bird there.&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Manley Olson&nbsp;<BR>Falcon 
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