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When we want to bird areas that have NO TRESPASSING SIGNS and Private=20 Property areas we need to get permission. The general public and area busi= nesses=20 are spooked and suspicious of people with cameras and binoculars that show u= p on=20 their property when they do not know why they are there. Remember most=20 people are self absorbed so they think we are looking and taking pictures of= =20 them. To us there is only beauty - peacefulness and tranquility associated= with=20 our bins/cameras. Too bad not all know about this other world of ours. =20 kathryn young Mpls/Sarasota Florida =20 In a message dated 1/10/07 4:03:48 PM, smithvil...@charter.net writes: >=20 > The owl was seen along the pave road that leads out to the bay beyond the=20 > UPS building. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > WARNING! >=20 > =A0 >=20 > I parked my Yukon right in front of the "No Trespassing" sign and was rea= dy=20 > to take some digiscope photos near my truck=A0of the owl when a tour bus c= ame=20 > by and spooked the owl on=A0one of the=A0nearby =A0lumber company building= s close=20 > to my Yukon.=A0 I walked maybe 50 yards beyond the sign ( my fault but I t= hought=20 > all I am doing is taking a photo of a owl )and then a fork lift operator=20 > asked me what I was doing.=A0 I told him about the owl on top of the build= ing. He=20 > told me I had to leave the area. I did so right away and walked backed to=20= my=20 > Yukon. I then decided to take some long shot photos of the owl=A0since I w= as=20 > not=A0parked on private property.=A0 I took 10 photos and left. I noticed=20= as I left=20 > a truck pulling out of the parking lot and was right behind me.=A0 I calle= d=20 > Kim Eckert to notify him about the owl and still keeping an eye on this tr= uck.=A0=20 > I got off I-35 onto Grand Avenue going near the Duluth Zoo and this truck=20 > was still following me!=A0 I pulled over on a side street and the truck sl= owed=20 > down,=A0 the driver looked at me for a few seconds and continue on. =A0I g= ot back=20 > onto Grand Avenue and decided to follow him back to the lumber company to=20 > inform the managers I do not like this sort of harassment.=A0 If I drove h= ome then=20 > what? would they come out to get physical with me?=A0=A0Would this=A0 pers= on=A0write=20 > down=A0my address down and do some drive bys to harass me or intimidate me= ?=A0 So=20 > I called the police from my truck to inform them of this harassment.=A0 I=20 > noticed the truck did not take the Port Terminal exit but there was yet an= other=20 > truck following me!=A0 So I exited off I-35 on 5th Ave. W and decided to d= rive=20 > to the Police headquarters. The truck followed me all the way to the polic= e=20 > headquarters where I parked along the 4th Avenue and then the truck double= d=20 > park next to me to block me in!=A0 I got out of my truck and walked to his= window=20 > to show him the photos of the owl but he was on his cell phone.=A0 So two=20 > police officers came out and I talked to one officer and the driver to tal= ked to=20 > the other guy.=A0 The police officer told me that ALL Port Terminal is bas= ically=20 > private property and has a high security. He told me next time I wanted to= =20 > take photos of wildlife that is on private property=A0in the Port Terminal= =20 > area=A0I needed to get the owners permission to do so.=A0 The other police= officer who=20 > questioned the other guy, came over to me to say "I am to stay away from=20 > their business and if I do=A0return, =A0the employees of that business can= do=20 > whatever is necessary to hold me till officers arrive"=A0 I was shocked to= hear this=20 > and I asked "even follow me to my residence"?=A0 The officer says "anythin= g!=20 > just=A0stay from their business".=A0 >=20 > =A0 >=20 > I noticed that the other guy was wearing a Hilltopper hockey jacket and=20 > most likely a parent=A0whose son=A0plays hockey for the school.=A0 I told=20= the guy I=20 > graduated from Cathedral/Marshall and know the hockey coach very well.=A0=20= When=20 > the police officer left, I walked backed to my truck and finally the other= guy=20 > says "next time you want to take pictures down there get my permission fir= st"=20 > I thought "huh"? >=20 > =A0 >=20 > So warning to all birders do not even think about driving down the pave=20 > road beyond the UPS building because according to one of the Duluth police= =20 > officers if they ( any of the business employees or owners ) see anyone on= their=20 > property which might include the road, they can physically pin you down, b= lock=20 > your car,=A0 follow you to your home and anything they can do to hold you=20= till=20 > the police arrive!=A0 Now I know very little about the laws in this countr= y=20 > and maybe there is a lawyer reading this but my question is this, can empl= oyees=20 > of a business leave their property and get in their personal trucks and=20 > follow you around town if they suspect you doing something criminal?=A0 Th= e police=20 > officer called it a Citizen Arrest. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Ever since 911 the Port Terminal is on high alert so beware of that! >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Michael Hendrickson > Duluth, Minnesota > http://webpages.charter.net/mmhendrickson/ >=20 >=20 --part1_d1f.436e1e4.32d81299_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Gen= eva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2">When we want to bird areas that have NO= TRESPASSING SIGNS and Private Property areas we need to get permission.&nbs= p; The general public and area businesses are spooked and suspicious of peo= ple with cameras and binoculars that show up on their property when they do=20= not know why they are there. Remember most people are self abso= rbed so they think we are looking and taking pictures of them. To us=20= there is only beauty - peacefulness and tranquility associated with our bins= /cameras. Too bad not all know about this other world of ours. =20= kathryn young Mpls/Sarasota Florida<BR> <BR> <BR> In a message dated 1/10/07 4:03:48 PM, smithvil...@charter.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE=3D"CITE"></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2">The owl was seen along the pave road that leads out to the bay beyond the= UPS building.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSS= ERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> =A0<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"> WARNING!</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSER= IF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> =A0<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"> I parked my Yukon right in front of the "No Trespassing" sign and was re= ady to take some digiscope photos near my truck=A0of the owl when a tour bus= came by and spooked the owl on=A0one of the=A0nearby =A0lumber company buil= dings close to my Yukon.=A0 I walked maybe 50 yards beyond the sign ( my fau= lt but I thought all I am doing is taking a photo of a owl )and then a fork=20= lift operator asked me what I was doing.=A0 I told him about the owl on top=20= of the building. He told me I had to leave the area. I did so right away and= walked backed to my Yukon. I then decided to take some long shot photos of=20= the owl=A0since I was not=A0parked on private property.=A0 I took 10 photos=20= and left. I noticed as I left a truck pulling out of the parking lot and was= right behind me.=A0 I called Kim Eckert to notify him about the owl and sti= ll keeping an eye on this truck.=A0 I got off I-35 onto Grand Avenue going n= ear the Duluth Zoo and this truck was still following me!=A0 I pulled over o= n a side street and the truck slowed down,=A0 the driver looked at me for a=20= few seconds and continue on. =A0I got back onto Grand Avenue and decided to=20= follow him back to the lumber company to inform the managers I do not like t= his sort of harassment.=A0 If I drove home then what? would they come out to= get physical with me?=A0=A0Would this=A0 person=A0write down=A0my address d= own and do some drive bys to harass me or intimidate me?=A0 So I called the=20= police from my truck to inform them of this harassment.=A0 I noticed the tru= ck did not take the Port Terminal exit but there was yet another truck follo= wing me!=A0 So I exited off I-35 on 5th Ave. W and decided to drive to the P= olice headquarters. The truck followed me all the way to the police headquar= ters where I parked along the 4th Avenue and then the truck doubled park nex= t to me to block me in!=A0 I got out of my truck and walked to his window to= show him the photos of the owl but he was on his cell phone.=A0 So two poli= ce officers came out and I talked to one officer and the driver to talked to= the other guy.=A0 The police officer told me that ALL Port Terminal is basi= cally private property and has a high security. He told me next time I wante= d to take photos of wildlife that is on private property=A0in the Port Termi= nal area=A0I needed to get the owners permission to do so.=A0 The other poli= ce officer who questioned the other guy, came over to me to say "I am to sta= y away from their business and if I do=A0return, =A0the employees of that bu= siness can do whatever is necessary to hold me till officers arrive"=A0 I wa= s shocked to hear this and I asked "even follow me to my residence"?=A0 The=20= officer says "anything! just=A0stay from their business".=A0</FONT><FONT COL= OR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> =A0<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"> I noticed that the other guy was wearing a Hilltopper hockey jacket and=20= most likely a parent=A0whose son=A0plays hockey for the school.=A0 I told th= e guy I graduated from Cathedral/Marshall and know the hockey coach very wel= l.=A0 When the police officer left, I walked backed to my truck and finally=20= the other guy says "next time you want to take pictures down there get my pe= rmission first" I thought "huh"?</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Genev= a" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> =A0<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"> So warning to all birders do not even think about driving down the pave=20= road beyond the UPS building because according to one of the Duluth police o= fficers if they ( any of the business employees or owners ) see anyone on th= eir property which might include the road, they can physically pin you down,= block your car,=A0 follow you to your home and anything they can do to hold= you till the police arrive!=A0 Now I know very little about the laws in thi= s country and maybe there is a lawyer reading this but my question is this,=20= can employees of a business leave their property and get in their personal t= rucks and follow you around town if they suspect you doing something crimina= l?=A0 The police officer called it a Citizen Arrest.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0= 00000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> =A0<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"> Ever since 911 the Port Terminal is on high alert so beware of that!</FO= NT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><= BR> <BR> =A0<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#800000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"> Michael Hendrickson<BR> Duluth, Minnesota<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"><A HREF=3D"http://webpages.charter.net/mmhendrickson/";>http://webpages.ch= arter.net/mmhendrickson/</A></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" F= AMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSE= RIF" SIZE=3D"2"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Geneva" FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D"= 2"></FONT></HTML> --part1_d1f.436e1e4.32d81299_boundary--
