Jay, Interesting premise - that you propose.
However - lets be crystal clear on this subject. You posited: <<...pay a share of funding needs comparable to that contributed by hunters and fishermen? (Hunters and fishermen pay license fees and, in some cases, purchase stamps for particular hunting privileges. >> Hunters and fishermen pay a "fee" in exchange to reap a personal bounty from community lands - a bounty in which said hunters/fishers *remove* communal property to their personal (sole) benefit in the form of "lives/protein" - e.g. fish and game. These hunters/fishers are essentially paying fees - to provide for their dinner. How dare you suggest that I need to pay a fee to set my eyes upon (e.g. or call to with my voice) live birds, fowl, mammals, reptiles, switchgrass, Prairie grass, etc in their natural habitat. Shame on you - is what I would say - for such a premise. What next - we pay a tax (e.g. so-called fees) for clean air? Ed On 10/2/2007 11:39 PM, mou-net-request at moumn.org wrote: > Send mou-net mailing list submissions to > mou-net at moumn.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://moumn.org/mailman/listinfo/mou-net_moumn.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mou-net-request at moumn.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mou-net-owner at moumn.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mou-net digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Green-breasted Mango story, sort of (Richard Wood) > 2. Sabine's Gull and Ibis - Lyon County (RBJanssen at aol.com) > 3. Sharp-tailed Sparrow Old Cedar (Dan Deutsch) > 4. about wildlife funding in Minnesota (Jim Williams) > 5. Harris's Sparrow, NW Bemidji, Beltrami County (Dave Carman) > 6. Re: about wildlife funding in Minnesota (Richard Wood) > 7. Re: about wildlife funding in Minnesota (Richard Wood) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:18:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard Wood <rwoodphd at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [mou] Green-breasted Mango story, sort of > To: mnbird at lists.mnbird.net, mou-net at moumn.org > Message-ID: <178116.96558.qm at web50004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, > > I wonder who the guy from Texas was. It might have been someone I know. > > Richard > > Richard L. Wood, Ph. D. > Hastings, MN > rwoodphd at yahoo.com > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Pastor Al Schirmacher <pastoral at princetonfreechurch.net> > To: BIRDCHAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU; mnbird at lists.mnbird.net; mou-net at > moumn.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:56:48 AM > Subject: [mou] Green-breasted Mango story, sort of > > Shared, with permission, from Pat Ready, Stoughton, Wisconsin: > > "Last week I was telling my co-worker about going down and photographing > the Mango hummer in Beloit. I mention how far away some folks had come > to see it. When I was there a woman from AZ (visiting relatives in > Chicago) was there and a woman from GA (visiting her sister in Milw) > and a man from TX (here for an Audubon meeting) and I mention this to > my co-worker. She said "Man Birders are weird." I briefly explained > listing and Life Birds but she's convinced Birders are a weird bunch. > So here's the kicker. As we were leaving work that day she mentioned > she had to get home and make dinner early because her husband had to do > a "Hare Run" that night. Naturally I asked what that was. She explained > he belongs to a running group called HASH. (Ahhh it's a drinking group > with a running problem) On a full moon night they do the "Hare Run". > Her hubby gets a 15 min. head start running with a 5 lb bag of flour > through the streets of Madison. He has to drop the flour as he runs > creating a trail so the rest of the group can follow him. Usually to > some bar an hour away. I just looked at her and said "And you think > Birders are weird?! Touche!" > > Al Schirmacher > Princeton, MN > Mille Lacs & Sherburne Counties > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://moumn.org/pipermail/mou-net_moumn.org/attachments/20071002/da76a895/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:19:20 EDT > From: RBJanssen at aol.com > Subject: [mou] Sabine's Gull and Ibis - Lyon County > To: mou-net at moumn.org > Message-ID: <c5f.191cdeea.34342bf8 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The juvenile Sabine's Gull was present at 11:00 AM today October 2 on > Cottonwood Lake. The bird was swimming along the rocky shore and among the > boat > docks in the NE corner of the lake. The bird would occasionally fly along > the > shore but return to the same spot where I watched it for about a half hour. > Across the road on Sham Lake there were an estimated 3-4,00 Franklin's Gulls > present. One immature Ibis was still present at noon at Black Rush Marsh on > the lake just south of the landfill. There were 2-3,000 gulls present in > the > area, maybe many more, about half Franklin's, half Ring-billed. In and > around Granite Falls and south to Marshall there was a large (100's) > migration of > American Robins, Yellow-rumped Warblers and Cedar Waxwings going on in the > AM hours. > > Bob Janssen > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://moumn.org/pipermail/mou-net_moumn.org/attachments/20071002/e09cbb35/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:56:22 -0500 > From: Dan Deutsch <deut0039 at umn.edu> > Subject: [mou] Sharp-tailed Sparrow Old Cedar > To: mou-net at moumn.org > Message-ID: <4702E8B6.1020401 at umn.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Went out to Old Cedar this evening, just after the heavy downpour and got > really good looks at a Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow at around 610pm. It > was located on the left-hand side of the viewing platform and then flew > across the water to the other side. > > Dan Deutsch > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:19:52 -0500 > From: Jim Williams <two-jays at att.net> > Subject: [mou] about wildlife funding in Minnesota > To: MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org> > Message-ID: <620276A4-59D3-4A06-83B5-791E55FA6B9F at att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > >> Hi, >> >> I want to ask two questions about wildlife funding in Minnesota. >> >> Before you read on -- responses, should you choose to make them -- >> are to be off net, to me directly, please. This is a subject some >> might find debatable, and this network is not the place for that >> debate. Thanks. >> >> I am working on an article for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. The >> subject is the source of funds for the Minnesota Department of >> Natural Resources. Most of the money it receives comes from hunters >> and fishermen. Yet, almost all of its work impacts non-game species >> as well, including birds. >> >> How would you react if birders and other non-consumptive users of >> wild lands in >> Minnesota were asked to pay a share of funding needs comparable to >> that contributed by >> hunters and fishermen? (Hunters and fishermen pay license fees and, >> in some cases, purchase stamps for particular hunting privileges. >> Hunters and fishermen also pay a federal tax on certain items of >> equipment, a tax at least some of which is returned to the state >> of purchase for ) >> >> If you feel you contribute already, how do you contribute to wildlife >> funding in Minnesota? >> >> The birder side of this discussion is important. I will appreciate >> your participation. >> >> I will not quote you directly unless I have your permission to do so. >> >> Jim Williams >> Wayzata >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:26:01 -0500 > From: "Dave Carman" <dscarman at charter.net> > Subject: [mou] Harris's Sparrow, NW Bemidji, Beltrami County > To: <mou-net at moumn.org> > Message-ID: <20071003032425.LUDL23773.aarprv04.charter.net at David> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This morning an adult Harris's Sparrow was observed along with > White-throated Sparrows feeding at my ground feeder. > > > > Dave Carman > > Bemidji, MN > > Beltrami County > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://moumn.org/pipermail/mou-net_moumn.org/attachments/20071002/e88b576d/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:21:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard Wood <rwoodphd at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [mou] about wildlife funding in Minnesota > To: MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org> > Message-ID: <572816.4920.qm at web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, > > A question of this type is asking for trouble. > > That being said, my opinion is that all wild lands should come from birders > and others that use it. There should be no hunting money used for this > purpose. It seems to me that there are more birders than hunters and it is > time for us to ante up. > > Richard > > Richard L. Wood, Ph. D. > Hastings, MN > rwoodphd at yahoo.com > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jim Williams <two-jays at att.net> > To: MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:19:52 PM > Subject: [mou] about wildlife funding in Minnesota > > >> Hi, >> >> I want to ask two questions about wildlife funding in Minnesota. >> >> Before you read on -- responses, should you choose to make them -- >> are to be off net, to me directly, please. This is a subject some >> might find debatable, and this network is not the place for that >> debate. Thanks. >> >> I am working on an article for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. The >> subject is the source of funds for the Minnesota Department of >> Natural Resources. Most of the money it receives comes from hunters >> and fishermen. Yet, almost all of its work impacts non-game species >> as well, including birds. >> >> How would you react if birders and other non-consumptive users of >> wild lands in >> Minnesota were asked to pay a share of funding needs comparable to >> that contributed by >> hunters and fishermen? (Hunters and fishermen pay license fees and, >> in some cases, purchase stamps for particular hunting privileges. >> Hunters and fishermen also pay a federal tax on certain items of >> equipment, a tax at least some of which is returned to the state >> of purchase for ) >> >> If you feel you contribute already, how do you contribute to wildlife >> funding in Minnesota? >> >> The birder side of this discussion is important. I will appreciate >> your participation. >> >> I will not quote you directly unless I have your permission to do so. >> >> Jim Williams >> Wayzata >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://moumn.org/pipermail/mou-net_moumn.org/attachments/20071002/5f28bd88/attachment-0001.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:39:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard Wood <rwoodphd at yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [mou] about wildlife funding in Minnesota > To: MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org> > Message-ID: <743007.76972.qm at web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > That should have said, "all wild lands money should come from birders and > others that use it". > > Richard > > Richard L. Wood, Ph. D. > Hastings, MN > rwoodphd at yahoo.com > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Richard Wood <rwoodphd at yahoo.com> > To: MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 12:21:48 AM > Subject: Re: [mou] about wildlife funding in Minnesota > > Hi all, > > A question of this type is asking for trouble. > > That being said, my opinion is that all wild lands should come from birders > and others that use it. There should be no hunting money used for this > purpose. It seems to me that there are more birders than hunters and it is > time for us to ante up. > > Richard > > Richard L. Wood, Ph. D. > Hastings, MN > rwoodphd at yahoo.com > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jim Williams <two-jays at att.net> > To: MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:19:52 PM > Subject: [mou] about wildlife funding in Minnesota > > > Hi, > >> I want to ask two questions about wildlife funding in Minnesota. >> >> Before you read on -- responses, should you choose to make them -- >> are to be off net, to me directly, please. This is a subject some >> might find debatable, and this network is not the place for that >> debate. Thanks. >> >> I am working on an article for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. The >> subject is the source of funds for the Minnesota Department of >> Natural Resources. Most of the money it receives comes from hunters >> and fishermen. Yet, almost all of its work impacts non-game species >> as well, including birds. >> >> How would you react if birders and other non-consumptive users of >> wild lands in >> Minnesota were asked to pay a share of funding needs comparable to >> that contributed by >> hunters >> > and fishermen? (Hunters and fishermen pay license fees and, > >> in some cases, purchase stamps for particular hunting privileges. >> Hunters and fishermen also pay a federal tax on certain items of >> equipment, a tax at least some of which is returned to the state >> of purchase for ) >> >> If you feel you contribute already, how do you contribute to wildlife >> funding in Minnesota? >> >> The birder side of this discussion is important. I will appreciate >> your participation. >> >> I will not quote you directly unless I have your permission to do so. >> >> Jim Williams >> Wayzata >> >> > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! 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