Re: A response to the post of Bernard P. FrielGood points, Eric--
Since we birders use e-mail to communicate about species seen, then shouldn't
we also communicate about habitats used, hence needed by these birds? [i.e.,
no habitat, no wild birds]
It follows then we should be interested in saving habitats, just as we are in
protecting birds
Protecting habitats more often involves economics and politics, because
habitats are part of a landscape that is either "owned" privately or publicly
controlled by government bodies.
So that brings us directly to getting politically involved just as it does to
contributing $$ to environmental causes.
As for those with other views, if they're relevant to birds and their habitats,
then let's hear from them.
So, pardon me if I use this network to make a pitch for voting 4 Nov, while
urging you not to forget a "YES" on our state constitutional amendment for
funding habitat protection, and alerting you that leaving that box unmarked = a
"NO" vote!
Peter Jordan
----- Original Message -----
From: Bernard P. Friel
To: gentilis03 at yahoo.com ; Tom Bell ; MOU net
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [mou] A response to the post of Bernard P. Friel
Ladies and Gentlemen,
There is an excellent editorial in the Wednesday October 8th edition of
the Highland Villager on the Constitutional amendment that does an excellent in
depth analysis.
Bernie Friel
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Bernard P. Friel
Web Pages - http://www.wampy.com ;
http://www.wampy.com/bn Owl Gallery
http://www.wampy.com/bn2 Songbirds
http://www.agpix.com/bernardpfriel
http://myloupe.com/home/found_photographer.php?photographer=1113
http://www.digitalrailroad.net/bernardfriel
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From: Eric Harrold <gentilis03 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: <gentilis03 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
To: Tom Bell <tnejbell at comcast.net>, MOU net <mou-net at moumn.org>,
"Bernard P. Friel" <wampy at att.net>
Subject: A response to the post of Bernard P. Friel
Folks,
Being that an opportunity presented itself, let me ask a question that has
puzzled me for some time. I've been a member of birding forums in North
Carolina and Virginia. Political discussions as they pertain to bird
conservation are frowned upon by some folks who would no doubt describe
themselves as birders. Can someone please provide answers to a couple of
questions actually, that I just don't seem to understand, even over many years.
1) If birders don't take political initiative, who will for many issues such
as habitat conservation/preservation that are critical to sustainable
populations of certain species? The one group that has done a tremendous amount
for conservation, hunters, often get derided on internet forums and in birding
publications. It seems a whole lot of birders are out of touch on how
conservation is achieved and its inherent political aspect.
2) How does noncommunication and the ignorance it promotes help anything? We
can conveniently avoid political discussions altogether to the end of being
polite, but other than this, I don't know what it can accomplish. What forum or
setting would be more appropriate for discussing the politics of avian
conservation than a birding forum?
Sincerely,
Eric Harrold
--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Bernard P. Friel <wampy at att.net> wrote:
From: Bernard P. Friel <wampy at att.net>
Subject: Re: [mou] vote November 4, for constitutional amendment
To: "Tom Bell" <tnejbell at comcast.net>, "MOU net" <mou-net at moumn.org>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 6:39 PM
Please explain to me how you can initiate expression of an opinion on a
subject on MOU net, as you did, and simultaneously caution against initiating
an expression of opinion on the same subject? Is it your intent to limit the
expression of opinion to a particular view ...the one you expressed?
--
Bernard P. Friel
Web Pages - http://www.wampy.com <http://www.wampy.com/> ;
http://www.wampy.com/bn Owl Gallery
http://www.wampy.com/bn2 Songbirds
http://www.agpix.com/bernardpfriel
http://myloupe.com/home/found_photographer.php?photographer=1113
http://www.digitalrailroad.net/bernardfriel
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